A Second Wave of Post-Punk

Interpol dropped Turn on the Bright Lights in 2002 and lit the fuse for a whole genre of bands mining the same Joy Division and Gang of Four vocabulary. Three years later, in 2005, Bloc Party, Editors, Maxïmo Park and The Bravery all released debuts within the same twelve months, a compressed second wave rather than an early-decade wave. Cut City arrived in 2007, right as Editors and Interpol themselves were already shifting sound, making Exit Decades a late entry into a scene that was already moving on.

The record lives in the friction between locked-in, almost mechanical downstrummed rhythm sections and loose, expressive, clearly human performances layered over top. That contrast, tight and stilted on one hand, propulsive and dynamic on the other, is what keeps nine short songs from blurring together. Vocalist Max Hansson’s baritone floats between rhythmic near-speaking and a croon that occasionally opens up toward melodic alt-rock, drawing comparisons to Suede and Placebo as much as the obvious Joy Division and The Sound touchstones.

Unlike a lot of the foundational post-punk records this album is indebted to, which were often tinny and budget-constrained, Exit Decades benefits from modern recording clarity. Every instrument sits in its own space; the bass acts as a genuine melodic anchor rather than bottom-end filler, and the guitar is deployed sparingly for maximum impact rather than played wall-to-wall. Tracks like “Like Ashes Like Millions,” “Such Verve,” and “Rival Trial” show off a band that knows when to strip back the arrangement and let a broken drum pattern breathe before snapping back into gear.

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There’s a real argument to be made that Cut City showed up to the party after the novelty had worn off. By 2007 the acts that kicked off this revival were already evolving past it, and Cut City never toured outside Sweden, never played the UK, and never really pushed the record commercially. PopMatters’ contemporary review flagged the same tension, noting the album is “effective, if a bit predictable,” and that the band’s fidelity to the source material sometimes reads as “disingenuous” rather than innovative.

What Happened After

Cut City went quiet for stretches rather than breaking up outright. Their second album, Where’s the Harm in Dreams Disarmed, came out in 2012, followed by a ten-year gap before 2022’s Tape Days and 2023’s Honeymoon at the Barricades brought the band back. Members also play in the more punk-leaning project Missiles, described as sharing the post-punk DNA with shorter, faster songs.

Nine songs, thirty-four minutes, and the discussion kept circling one question: does this record have the killer single or quirky vocal hook that made its American and British peers stick? Fan and critic sentiment splits along that exact line, PopMatters called it “straight throwback” with “limited appeal,” while Discogs users currently rate the album a very healthy 4.77 out of 5. We debated whether the hooks are there and just underdeveloped, or whether the sonic performance and mix quality carry the record on their own. Does a record need a “Love Will Tear Us Apart” moment to be memorable, or is atmosphere enough? And does arriving three years after the trend peaked actually hurt an album, or just make it a footnote worth digging up now? Listen to the full episode to hear where we landed, and drop a comment with your own take.

Episode Highlights

• 00:00: Intro, welcome back guest Darren Leach and his history with the show

• 01:49: Darren introduces Cut City and Exit Decades, released 2007

• 02:20: How Darren discovered the album on a blog in the late 2000s

• 04:51: Band background, Deleted Art, Gold Standard Laboratories, discography timeline

• 08:51: Jay breaks down the mechanical vs. expressive tension in the arrangements

• 14:16: Tim on the baritone vocal style and comparisons to Richard Butler and The Sound

• 19:05: Darren on the mix, bass as melodic anchor, and “Rival Trial”

• 26:49: What doesn’t work: the missing killer vocal hook

• 33:09: Mapping the post-punk revival timeline against Interpol, Bloc Party, Editors

• 37:41: Hosts reveal ratings and share the Patreon poll result

A Memphis band born out of Free Beer

Surprise Attack is the debut studio album from Tora Tora, a hard rock band formed in Memphis, Tennessee in 1985, released in May 1989 on A&M Records and produced by Joe Hardy and Paul Ebersold. According to a Headbangers Ball interview, a friend of the band handed them a list of 60 to 70 possible band names, and Tora Tora was the one that stuck; the group’s original name had reportedly been Free Beer. Frontman Anthony Corder and guitarist Keith Douglas anchored a lineup that, unlike most of the Sunset Strip class of 1989, wasn’t jockeying for space against Poison, Warrant, and Mötley Crüe. Being 10 years removed from the epicenter of hair metal and working out of Memphis instead of Los Angeles let their influences run closer to Aerosmith and Judas Priest without the scene politics diluting them.

Judas Priest power wrapped in Beale Street blues

What makes Surprise Attack stand apart from the era’s cookie cutter glam records is the way it fuses two things that shouldn’t fit together this cleanly: chunky, Judas Priest style power metal riffing and loose, Aerosmith style blues shuffle. Songs like “One for the Road” flip between the two feels within the same track rather than settling into either lane. “Being There” opens with a Leslie organ tone that gives it a soulful, almost 70s texture before the chorus turns into a chugging metal hook, a nonstandard spin on the power ballad formula that trades polish for grit. “Walkin’ Shoes” builds its hook by reusing the same riff in the intro and chorus but cutting it short in the verse, a small structural trick that keeps the song’s signature lick from wearing out its welcome.

A&M pulled three singles from the record: “Walkin’ Shoes,” “Guilty,” and “Phantom Rider”, and the trio doesn’t sound like a single band phoning in three versions of the same song. “Guilty” carries a five-to-ten-second stretch of unusually chunky, distorted guitar after the first chorus that never repeats anywhere else on the record, a moment specific enough that it landed on mixtapes for years. “Phantom Rider” leans hard into a Bad Company style groove that stands apart from the glossier singles around it. The album reached number 47 on the Billboard 200, modest by hair metal standards but enough to get the band on the road opening for LA Guns, then for The Cult on the Sonic Temple tour alongside Bonham, and for date runs with Great White.

The record’s biggest obstacle isn’t the songwriting, it’s the mix. Reverb and delay sit over nearly everything, to the point that bass playing, organ parts, and even guitar solos get buried in a wash rather than cutting through. Compared to a band like Badlands, which stripped its production down to emphasize raw performance, Surprise Attack sounds like it defaulted to the standard late-80s hard rock settings rather than chasing the drier, punchier tone the songs seem built for. It is the kind of album that rewards a remix or remaster candidate conversation, because the performances underneath the haze, particularly the vocal and guitar work, hold up better than the mix lets on.

The verdict

Community sentiment on this album splits hard. Some listeners call Surprise Attack an underrated great that got unfairly lumped into the tail end of the hair glam era despite not really belonging there. Others have a much colder read, with one commenter recalling mercilessly mocking the band’s friends over the record back in the day. Even a Wikipedia-linked contemporary review dismissed it as a Van Halen and Dokken knockoff, a comparison our hosts pushed back on hard. So does the deeper album justify the singles that made it a modest hit, or do the singles carry a record that gets less memorable the further you go? Is the reverb-heavy 1989 production a dealbreaker or just a product of its time? And which handful of songs would actually survive a trim? The hosts weighed in with a real verdict on this one, ranking it somewhere between a worthy full album and a tighter, stronger EP. Listen to the episode for the full ratings breakdown, and drop a comment with where you’d land.

What happened to the band

Tora Tora followed Surprise Attack with 1992’s Wild America, then largely dissolved as the industry’s tastes swung toward grunge. In the years since, the label FNA has released a string of compilations and unreleased material, including Bombs Away: The Unreleased Surprise Attack Recordings, and the band reunited to release The Bastards of Beale on Frontiers Records in 2019, followed by a live acoustic EP. Corder still plays regional dates around Ohio, where local Columbus musician Charlie Bonnet III has opened several of the reunion shows.

Episode Highlights

• Intro - "Walkin' Shoes"

• 00:00: Poll results, Tora Tora wins the four-way poll with 50% of the vote against Metallica, Slade, and Motörhead

• 04:18: Band history, hosts share their personal history with Tora Tora and the second album Wild America

• 06:35: Tour bus story, a firsthand account of interviewing the band in 1992 before a Newport headlining show

• 20:39: What works, breaking down the blend of Judas Priest style riffs and bluesy grooves across the record

• 23:19 - "One for the Road"

• 24:53 - "Being There"

• 32:31 - "Guilty"

• 33:34 - "Walkin' Shoes"

• 35:16 - "Riverside Drive"

• 39:34: Band name origin, the list of 60 to 70 names and the Free Beer backstory

• 40:04: What doesn’t work, a deep dive on the album’s reverb-heavy 1989 production

• 47:28: Legacy, the FNA reissue campaign, Bombs Away, and the 2019 reunion album The Bastards of Beale

• 49:43: Final verdict, worthy album, better EP, or decent single

• Outro - “Hard Times”

Four heavy records from the ’70s. Four different entry points into the decade. One winner gets the full Dig Me Out treatment: history, deep dive, host ratings, community ratings, and the comments that keep the conversation going.

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Hawkwind — Space Ritual (1973)

Suggested by Eric Peterson

“The DNA of stoner rock, weird, sci-fi, psych, and even trance can be found on this recording.”

Hawkwind weren’t just playing hard rock; they sounded like they were trying to transmit it from a damaged spacecraft somewhere beyond the moon. Space Ritual is the definitive early live document from the British space-rock institution: proto-punk velocity, psychedelic drift, sci-fi atmosphere, and riffs that feel built to shake loose a few ceiling tiles.

Eric makes a strong case that this is the right doorway into Hawkwind beyond “Silver Machine” and “Urban Guerrilla.” If you want to hear a record where heavy psych, punk, stoner rock, and cosmic repetition are all beginning to bleed together, this is the one.

Skid Row — 34 Hours (1971)

Suggested by Gavin Reid

“The ’70s Irish Skid Row is a mix of rock, proto-metal, psychedelic and prog sounds, to create something you’ll want to hear.”

No, not that Skid Row. This is the early-’70s Irish band with a young Gary Moore, playing before the legend had fully arrived but with plenty of evidence already on tape.

34 Hours is what happens when blues-rock muscle, psychedelic wandering, proto-metal crunch, and prog curiosity all decide to pile into the same van. Gavin’s “maybe even a supergroup” thought is hard to shake—especially knowing where Moore would go from here. This is the sound of a guitarist and a band testing every possible route before the map was finished.

Bloodrock — Bloodrock U.S.A. (1971)

Suggested by Kyle Bittner

“My dad, who passed a few years ago, had this in his collection and when I was younger I was enamored with the cover art, but obviously hated the music at the time.”

Sometimes the hook is a riff. Sometimes it’s an album cover that burns itself into your brain before you’re old enough to understand what the music is doing.

Kyle rediscovered Bloodrock U.S.A. through exactly that kind of family-memory detour: a record from his late father’s collection, remembered first for its artwork and then found again years later with different ears. He came back to it, dug into Bloodrock’s catalog, and found an album that feels ready for another shot.

And yes, Kyle is also right about the cover: it makes an immediate, extremely persuasive case for itself.

Nick Gilder — City Nights (1978)

Suggested by Whitney Beehler

“Chunky, glammy power pop songs including ‘Hot Child in the City,’ ‘(She’s) One of the Boys’ and ‘Got to Get Out.’”

Need some glitter with your guitar muscle? Whitney Beehler brings City Nights, an album packed with glossy hooks, chunky guitars, and enough glam swagger to make the whole ballot lean toward the mirror.

“Hot Child in the City” is the obvious calling card, but City Nights has more to offer than one massive single. It’s power pop with a little grit under the polish—the kind of record that makes a strong argument that catchy doesn’t mean lightweight.

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One of these albums becomes the next full Dig Me Out episode. We’ll get into the band, the record, the ratings, the poll fallout, and the community takes that deserve to be heard.

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Which album would hurt the most to see lose—and what song from it still gets you every time?

That is exactly why Travelers & Thieves is worth reopening.

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Released September 3, 1991 on A&M Records, it was the band’s second album, produced by Jim Gaines with the band itself. John Popper, guitarist Chan Kinchla, bassist Bobby Sheehan, and drummer Brendan Hill sound less like a future mainstream success story than a working unit testing its internal chemistry.

Board of Directors member brought this one to us partly because Blues Traveler has long been filed under bands people are tired of, dismiss, or never explore beyond the two ubiquitous singles. That dismissal misses the real tension of this record. Travelers & Thieves is not built like a polished radio machine. It is a band caught between hook-minded rock songs, loose improvisational instincts, bluesy detours, reggae-colored rhythms, funk workouts, and a little progressive-rock ambition.

The record opens with “The Tiding,” a short ambient throat-clearing that feels almost suspiciously grand for a band often reduced to a harmonica vest and a pop chorus. Then “Onslaught” arrives with a bass-forward, shifting approach that immediately complicates the caricature. This is not the Blues Traveler most people think they know.

It is a band in motion, sometimes thrillingly so.

Bobby Sheehan Is the Engine

The obvious star of Blues Traveler is Popper. The voice is unmistakable, the harmonica technique is absurdly fast, and the stage persona is large enough to become the whole story. But the deeper we got into Travelers & Thieves, the clearer it became that Bobby Sheehan is the album’s foundation.

His bass playing is everywhere. It is active without merely showing off, melodic without losing the groove, and often responsible for making a song feel like it is moving in several directions at once. On “Onslaught” and “Ivory Tusk,” the lines have an almost fretless, flowing quality, a little closer to the kind of melodic low-end work that made Pearl Jam’s Jeff Ament such a defining presence on Ten than to the expected roots-rock thump.

That activity is the source of both the album’s power and its friction.

When the band locks, the players create a fabric rather than a traffic jam. Bass lines coil around guitar figures, the drums keep the pulse nimble, and Popper’s rapid vocal phrasing becomes another rhythmic instrument in the arrangement. “Support Your Local Emperor” is one of the clearest examples. The bass does not simply support the song. It establishes the architecture, while Popper answers and reacts inside its movement.

That is the kind of band interplay Patrick loves most. For him, the apparent competition is actually connection, the same way the Allman Brothers Band could make two drummers, multiple guitar voices, and extended improvisation feel like one living organism.

But it is also where the record can make a listener work. There are moments when Popper’s dense, rapid-fire vocal delivery, Sheehan’s busy bass, and the rhythm section’s constant activity create a lot of information at once. If you want a giant chorus to grab you by the collar, Travelers & Thieves can feel elusive. If you want to hear four musicians build a song from interlocking parts, it is rich with detail.

The Slow Songs Tell the Story

The surprise on Travelers & Thieves is how often the quieter material carries the strongest emotional weight.

“Sweet Pain” gives Popper more room than the faster, denser cuts. Instead of turning his voice into a blur of cadence and syllables, the song lets him stretch out, reveal more tone, and lean into a chorus with real lift. The contrast between verse and chorus is sharper here. The arrangement breathes. You can hear the song gathering itself rather than simply moving forward.

That same sense of clarity makes “Support Your Local Emperor” stand out. Its relative restraint does not make it less ambitious. It makes the musical decisions easier to hear. The bass, vocal, and rhythmic ideas stop fighting for attention and begin to feel like parts of a single shape.

Then there is “Mountain Cry,” the record’s long closing piece and perhaps its most revealing collision of Blues Traveler’s goals. Gregg Allman appears on Hammond B3 organ and vocals, bringing a direct connection to the Southern-rock and jam-band lineage hovering around the record. Chris Barron of the Spin Doctors also appears elsewhere on the album, on “All in the Groove,” another reminder that these bands were not separate commercial categories yet. They were friends, peers, and products of overlapping scenes.

“Mountain Cry” is not flawless. The performance is more interesting than tidy, and the guest vocal does not always land with the force its pedigree promises. But the song matters because it shows the band reaching for something bigger than a clever groove or a potential single. It is bluesy, extended, and emotionally exposed.

That is the version of Blues Traveler we kept coming back to: the band that slows down long enough to let the songs become more than a display of skill.

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A Jam Band Before the Label Fit

Blues Traveler was not yet the giant they would become when Travelers & Thieves arrived. Their breakout was still years away. “Run-Around,” from 1994’s four, eventually hit No. 8 on the Billboard Hot 100, an unusually massive crossover result for a band associated with improvisation and the jam scene.

That later success changes how we hear this earlier album. It makes Travelers & Thieves feel like a record from a band that had not yet learned which parts of itself would sell.

The conventional story says Blues Traveler became successful when they found cleaner pop structures. There is truth in that. “Run-Around” and “Hook” are more direct, more concise, and easier to enter than the material here. Their choruses are clearer. Their shapes are less likely to wander. Even listeners who do not identify as jam-band fans can hear why those songs connected.

But Travelers & Thieves makes a different case for the band. It shows that the group’s range was broader than the radio version suggested. The songs can sound like alternative rock one moment, New Orleans-inflected roots music the next, then funk, reggae, blues, and something close to jazz fusion. That reach is not always equally convincing. When the record pushes into funk or reggae, it can feel more like a stylistic experiment than an inhabited identity. When it leans into more open-ended fusion textures, some of us wanted a little more grit and less polish.

Still, the willingness to try all of it is what keeps the record interesting.

This was also the era in which Blues Traveler helped launch the H.O.R.D.E. Festival, a touring environment built for artists who did not fit neatly into the dominant alternative-rock, metal, or pop lanes. Its name stood for Horizons of Rock Developing Everywhere, and its lineups eventually included artists as varied as Phish, The Black Crowes, Lenny Kravitz, Ben Folds Five, Wilco, and Soul Coughing.

The point was bigger than any one band. H.O.R.D.E. created a place where improvisation, roots music, college-rock instincts, and left-of-center songwriting could coexist. Travelers & Thievessounds like it belongs to that opening moment, before the categories hardened.

Great Players, Uneven Drama

The record’s central limitation is also the price of its personality.

There is an enormous amount of musicianship on Travelers & Thieves. Popper can make the harmonica sound like a lead guitar, particularly in the speed and articulation of his runs. Kinchla is an inventive guitarist. Sheehan is constantly finding new paths through a measure. Hill stays alert to every turn.

Yet great playing does not automatically create drama.

For us, the faster songs can sometimes occupy a narrow dynamic space. Everyone is engaged, everyone is playing, everyone is offering something, but the record does not always create the sharp contrasts that make an album feel emotionally inevitable. We wanted more light and dark, more room between the notes, more moments when the band either got truly ugly or truly beautiful.

“I Have My Moments” demonstrates the tradeoff. It has one of the album’s most memorable hooks, but its vocal density can bury the very thing you want to carry away. “What’s for Breakfast” works better as a funk-oriented track because the band commits to the pocket and keeps returning to the center of the groove. “Bagheera,” meanwhile, is an enjoyable song that may be the easiest candidate for trimming if you are building the leaner version of this album.

The album is most compelling when it makes a choice. “Sweet Pain” chooses emotional space. “Support Your Local Emperor” chooses a strong internal structure. “Mountain Cry” chooses scale. “Onslaught” chooses movement.

Those choices are more interesting than a band simply trying to prove it can play.

The Verdict Is in the Tension

Travelers & Thieves is not the hidden masterpiece that makes every later Blues Traveler record irrelevant. It is better than that kind of claim, because it is a complicated record from a complicated band.

It catches a young group before the hits, when its musical vocabulary was wide open and its identity had not settled into the version radio would eventually reward. There are riffs and grooves here that deserve more credit. There are songs that feel like sketches for a more decisive future. There are moments where the density becomes exciting, and others where it becomes hard to enter.

That is the fun of the conversation.

Was Blues Traveler more compelling before it became a hitmaking band? Does Bobby Sheehan deserve to be remembered as one of the defining bass players of that era’s roots-rock explosion? Is “Sweet Pain” the emotional center of the album? And when you hear Popper’s rapid vocal phrasing, do you hear clutter or an instrument playing a different role in the band?

We have our full assessment in the episode, but this one is worth arguing about. Listen for the complete verdict, then drop a comment with the Travelers & Thieves track you would keep, cut, or make the case for.

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Episode Highlights

• 00:14: Patrick Testa returns, and brings a deliberately challenging Blues Traveler pick

• 04:13: Why Travelers & Thieves, not the debut or 1994’s four

• 13:39: The album’s lineup, Jim Gaines production, and guest appearances from Gregg Allman and Chris Barron

• 16:35: H.O.R.D.E. Festival, and where Blues Traveler fit in the 90s touring ecosystem

• 23:20: Bobby Sheehan’s bass work becomes the center of the discussion

• 30:10: Why “Sweet Pain” and the slower songs reveal a different side of John Popper

• 36:59: The trouble with limited dynamics, busy arrangements, and buried hooks

• 44:07: “Mountain Cry,” Gregg Allman, Southern-rock grit, and the record’s biggest swing

• 50:29: Patrick’s H.O.R.D.E. Festival memories, including a remarkable side-stage jam

• 1:06:50: Final ratings, favorite tracks, and the case for an EP-length version of the album

The 1970 Billy Joel Metal Album That Time Forgot

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Before “Piano Man,” before “Uptown Girl,” before he was even Billy Joel, there was Attila. A two-man Hammond-organ-and-drums duo turning out prehistoric proto-metal on Long Island in 1970. The album is 59 minutes and 59 seconds of a young songwriter trying to sound like Iron Butterfly and mostly succeeding. We spent the episode on the specific chaos of the record he’d rather you never heard.

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Coming Up Next

Blues Traveler – Travelers and Thieves (Tuesday, August 11)

John Popper’s harmonica, Chan Kinchla’s guitar, and the second Blues Traveler record, the one that turned a New York bar band into an H.O.R.D.E.-tour headliner without any of the songs you’d hear on the radio yet. Travelers and Thieves (1991) is the one longtime fans defend hardest. This week is a Patron Album Review picked by Patrick Testa from the Board of Directors.

After that on Aug 18: Tora Tora Surprise Attack (1989) as the next 80s Metal episode.

Give Travelers and Thieves a spin before Tuesday and come ready with what works and what doesn’t.

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New Releases

The Mountain Goats – Days

Think back to 2005, headphones on, “This Year” from The Sunset Tree landing on you like a hand on the shoulder, and John Darnielle becoming the poet laureate of surviving your own life. Twenty-plus records later, he still writes like the guy who could not shut up about the specifics. Days is out August 7 on his Cadmean Dawn imprint, arriving less than a year after their last, and it started as a Goths sequel (working title: Grunges) before becoming a broader meditation on 90s nostalgia and mortality with songs literally titled “Song for Layne Staley” and “Charlie Sheen Reaches Out to the Feds.”

What works: Still Listening Magazine frames the tonal move directly: “Days’ music is deceptively chipper, content to rage against the dying light in a gentler fashion.” New wave synths, country-tinged harp from Mikaela Davis, and Darnielle finding grace in every wounded weirdo he writes about.

What doesn’t: Fans on r/themountaingoats split on the execution, with a vocal contingent finding some lyrics “really corny” and the rhyme schemes too simple for the conceptual ambition. Even Darnielle’s most devoted apologists concede that at 27 albums deep, the batting average has to slip somewhere.

Shearwater – The New World

Cast your mind back to 2008, Rook on repeat, Jonathan Meiburg’s strained tenor pushing against instrumental thickets that sounded like Talk Talk had gotten a job on a research vessel. Meiburg is a working ornithologist as much as he’s a bandleader, and Shearwater have been quietly making cerebral, nature-infused art rock as an Okkervil River spinoff since the late 90s. The New World is out July 31, self-released and crowdfunded, recorded across four years in London, Berlin, Brooklyn, and Texas with members of Malian group Ngoni Ba, Shahzad Ismaily, and Laurie Anderson on the closing track.

What works: Uncut gave it 9/10 and praised how it “throngs with nature imagery” while tackling truth and misinformation. A Bandcamp fan quoted on the release page called it “the band’s best to date, its songs ring with clarity, urgency and depth.”

What doesn’t: The same Uncut review frames the cost of admission: this is expansive but focused music with Thom Yorke-adjacent vocals, and the lack of obvious hooks means it’s not background music. If you’re not willing to sit down with it, the record will slide past you.

The Durutti Column – Renascent

Picture Manchester in 1980, Factory Records catalog number FAC 14, Vini Reilly’s guitar sounding like the most quietly emotional instrument on any label in Britain. The Durutti Column were always Joy Division’s spiritual counterweight on Factory, and Reilly’s intricate, nylon-string fingerwork influenced everyone from Johnny Marr to Bradford Cox. Renascent is his first studio album in 16 years, out July 31 on London Records. Reilly suffered multiple strokes that left him unable to play guitar and financially vulnerable. Longtime collaborators Bruce Mitchell and Keir Stewart assembled the record patiently over a decade, recording Reilly in his kitchen from a van outside during the pandemic.

What works: Silent Radio lands the verdict without qualification: “Surely a record that will be remembered as one of the greatest comeback albums of the 21st century.” Reilly’s “intricate, instinctive melodies and bold, fluid fingerwork” remain intact.

What doesn’t: No More Workhorse notes not every experiment lands: Reilly’s spoken-word vocals on “Liars” create “a strange effect” with his “almost rap-style vocal,” and “Your Shadow at Evening” with its drum-dominated approach “doesn’t quite resonate.” A record this hard-won gets a lot of grace, but the honest read is that some tracks work and some don’t.

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Trashcan Sinatras – Ever The Optimist

Remember 1990, “Obscurity Knocks” on college radio, the Trashcans announcing themselves as the Scottish band that took jangle-pop’s melancholy and layered it with the kind of harmony that made you rewind cassettes. Frank Reader’s voice, John Douglas’s melodies, and a run of records (Cake, I’ve Seen Everything, A Happy Pocket) that quietly kept the Aztec Camera flame alive through the Britpop bombast. Ever The Optimist is out July 31, their first proper studio album in about six years, and the title tells you exactly which pole of the Reader-brothers songwriting spectrum they’re leaning into this time.

What works: Louder Than War frames what fans of A Happy Pocket have been waiting for: the record “leans into the melodic warmth and lyrical care that made them essential in the first place, without pretending three decades haven’t passed.”

What doesn’t: The same Louder Than War piece also names the tradeoff: the Trashcans have never once tried to sound like a different band, and this record isn’t going to convert anyone who hasn’t already found their way in. If jangle-heavy Scottish sadpop has never been your entry point, Ever The Optimist isn’t the U-turn.

Also Out This Week

Various Artists – We Are the Beautiful: Two Decades of Shoegaze 1991-2011: Cherry Red’s 4CD, 67-track compilation covering shoegaze’s whole arc from 1991 through the second and third waves. AllMusic’s Paul Simpson praises how it “gathers highlights and deep cuts” with “plenty of quality material from shoegaze’s original wave” that wasn’t on prior comps. Notable omission: My Bloody Valentine (licensing).

The Darling Buds – Same Sun / Same Sky: Andrea Lewis’s C86-era Welsh alt-pop band’s first new album in a decade, still riding a jangle-and-fuzz template that was underrated in 1988 and remains underrated now. Out July 31.

Starflyer 59 – Disappointed EP: Jason Martin’s long-running project turns in another compact bulletin from the shoegaze/dream-pop spectrum, released July 31 on Velvet Blue Music.

Strawberry Alarm Clock – Where’s One?: First album of all-new material in 14 years from the “Incense and Peppermints” band, with five of the six original members from their 1967-68 records back in the room. Bill Kopp at Musoscribe says it might be “one of my potential picks for the year’s best.” Out August 7 on Big Stir.

Billy Morrison – Hollow: The Idol/Cult guitarist’s second solo record, following 2024’s The Morrison Project. Out August 7.

Fresh in the Hopper

The queue keeps stacking. Here are the picks worth bookmarking. They’ll all be appearing in upcoming polls.

The Wipers, Is This Real? (1980), submitted by Darren Leach. His pitch is efficient: “Because many bands have covered their songs, including Nirvana who covered 2 tracks from this album alone.” Portland’s foundational post-punk record, the one Kurt Cobain would name-check for the rest of his life.

The Firm, The Firm (1985), submitted by Chip. With Led Zeppelin and Bad Company both done, Paul Rodgers and Jimmy Page formed a supergroup with Tony Franklin and Chris Slade. “Radioactive” hit number one on Billboard’s Mainstream Rock chart and the video got MTV airplay. Chip’s real question: was the rest of the album worth digging up? Guessing yes.

Kick Axe, Vices (1984), submitted by Tony. Rated 10/10 by Martin Popoff, and Tony’s got a specific defense: “’Heavy Metal Shuffle’ should have been HUGE.” Canadian melodic metal that lived just under the surface of the 80s hard-rock explosion.

Handsome, Handsome (1997), submitted by Darren Leeman. Post-Helmet supergroup with members of Cro-Mags and Quicksand, an album that Darren describes as “tight, melodic and punchy,” the connective tissue between alt-metal and the post-hardcore explosion.

Got a lost or forgotten album that deserves the spotlight? Drop it in the Hopper.

What are you reaching for first this week? Darnielle’s 27th, Meiburg’s four-year globe-trotter, Vini Reilly finally recording again, or the Trashcans doing the thing only the Trashcans do?

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Heavy metal in the meat locker

The Attila story starts in the New York club circuit of the late 1960s, where Billy Joel and Jon Small cut their teeth in Long Island band The Hassles before deciding to strip things down, turn the amps up, and chase the emerging heavy rock wave. By 1969 they had walked away from their psych rock outfit, signed with Epic Records, and cut a duo album that replaced guitar and bass with an overdriven Hammond organ fed straight into Marshall stacks.

The self titled Attila album landed in July 1970, right as Sabbath, Zep, and Purple were defining what “heavy” meant to rock audiences. On paper it looked like a novelty, with a now notorious meat locker cover showing Joel and Small posing among hanging sides of beef, equal parts barbarian cosplay and bargain bin oddity. Inside, though, is a sincere attempt to match the volume and aggression of British heavy rock with nothing but organ, drums, and a 21 year old singer pulling every Robert Plant inspired scream his lungs will allow.

That context matters because it explains both the ambition and the backlash. Stephen Thomas Erlewine famously called Attila “undoubtedly the worst album released in the history of rock and roll,” while other writers have heard it as a chaotic joke that Joel himself never quite got. We came in knowing the reputation, but once we sat with the record, the story felt less like a punchline and more like a strange, almost alternate timeline for one of rock’s most conservative songwriters.

Organ instead of guitars

The first thing that hits you on Attila is not the songs, it is the sound. Joel is handling lead lines, riffs, bass, and chords on that single Hammond, all run into Marshall amplification that gives the entire record a fuzzed out, almost guitar like grind. On opener “Wonder Woman” and “California Flash,” the organ tone sits somewhere between Deep Purple’s Mark I era and a grittier club band, with the left hand pumping out bass figures while the right hand dives into distorted leads that often pass as rhythm guitar on first listen. You can hear how much this solves some of the late 60s recording limitations, because that saturated organ occupies plenty of sonic space without the brittleness that plagued early heavy guitar recordings.

That approach reaches its most Sabbath like moments on “Tear This Castle Down,” where the riffs and bass lines feel like they were written for Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler, only to be re routed through keys instead of strings. The band leans into that heaviness by arranging long, multi part pieces like “Amplifier Fire (Part I: Godzilla / Part II: March Of The Huns),” which rides an almost proto doom stomp before morphing into jammy, martial sections that show off Joel’s speed and Small’s stamina. When the record moves into “Holy Moses” and the closing instrumental “Brain Invasion,” the organ becomes outright shreddy, with runs that reminded us of later guitar hero records, except every note is coming from manuals and pedals rather than a fretboard.

Vocally, what stands out is how much power there is relative to other proto metal curios from the same era. We have covered plenty of early 70s heavy bands whose singers struggle to compete with their own rhythm sections, but here the voice cuts through with a full bodied, wailing delivery that feels more aligned with classic British hard rock than the cult obscurity bin. If you go back to Cold Spring Harbor a year later, or even forward to Piano Man, you can hear flashes of the same melodic instincts in lines that pop up for a bar or two in Attila’s otherwise riff driven songs.

Ahead of its time, short on songs

For all the sonic fun, Attila is not a secret masterpiece hiding in plain sight, and our conversation kept circling back to the same sticking point. There are almost no actual songs here, at least not in the way we usually talk about hooks and choruses. The record feels performance first, stitching together riffs, rhythmic hits, and extended instrumental passages into eight tracks that often blur into one another if you are not actively counting track changes. “California Flash” might be the clearest example of the tension; the chorus tries to lift with a simple ascending melody, but the lyrics are goofy enough that it veers into cringe and undercuts the musical punch.

That writing gap becomes more striking when you lay this album next to Cold Spring Harbor, which arrived only about fourteen months later with songs like “She’s Got a Way” and “Everybody Loves You Now.” One year you have extended Hammond jams about medieval sieges, the next you have compact, emotionally articulate piano ballads and proto singer songwriter material that would eventually lead to The Stranger. It creates this cognitive dissonance where you almost have to assume Attila was partly an attempt to ride a trend, a local band asking “what if we just did our own Deep Purple and Sabbath hybrid to get out of Long Island.”

If you approach Attila expecting fully formed songs, you will probably find yourself lost somewhere in the suite “Amplifier Fire” or spacing out during “Rollin’ Home,” realizing you cannot remember a chorus or lyric you want to return to. That is where the record works better if you think of it as a concept or jam project that never quite committed to being instrumental, rather than a heavy rock LP aimed at the singles and radio market. We found ourselves agreeing that the best way to appreciate this band is as an EP length experience focused on a handful of standout tracks, with the rest functioning as curiosities and context rather than essentials.

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Billy Joel, alternate timeline

The human drama around Attila is almost as compelling as the music, and it gives the record a strange, bittersweet weight. Joel and Small not only left their previous band together, they also wound up in a personal triangle when Billy began a relationship with Jon’s wife, an affair that effectively ended their musical partnership. In interviews, Joel has talked about how badly the Attila era wrecked him, including a failed suicide attempt involving household cleaners and a subsequent period of depression as he watched his early band and record fall apart. That sense of failure hangs over the lore, right down to the story that he once tried to buy and destroy copies of the album from record stores because he hated it so deeply.

When you remember that he was only around twenty one when Attila came out, the ambition and the emotional volatility make more sense. This is a young player, heavily influenced by the Beatles and British Invasion pop, who somehow ended up fronting a two man heavy rock experiment that cleared most of its audiences out of the room. It is not hard to imagine an alternate universe where Attila tightens up, adds a guitarist, and turns Joel into a full time organ slinger in some American answer to Uriah Heep or Whitesnake, rather than the arena piano balladeer we know.

There is also a fascinating afterlife to Jon Small’s career. Instead of continuing as a drummer, he moved into video production and eventually worked on Billy Joel’s live concert films, a surprising reconciliation given the personal history that broke the band in the first place. Meanwhile, the Attila album has been reissued and repackaged in bootleg form over the decades, sometimes even marketed explicitly as a Billy Joel title in territories like Italy and New Zealand, complete with mismatched cover art that has nothing to do with the original meat locker concept. For a record its own creator wishes would disappear, it has an uncanny habit of resurfacing whenever someone wants to tell the story of “Billy Joel’s metal band.”

Proto metal, retro ears

Listening in 2026, one of the strangest pleasures of Attila is how modern it can feel if you strip away the reputation and origin story. If you played “Wonder Woman,” “California Flash,” or “Revenge Is Sweet” for a young garage rock or stoner rock fan today and told them it was a new band from Detroit, there is a decent chance they would hear it as a retro cool heavy psych record rather than a historical oddity. The Hammond tone, the raw drum sound, and the loose arrangements sit right next to the aesthetics that bands in the Third Man Records orbit have been mining for years, from The Dead Weather to The Raconteurs.

That retro compatibility is why we kept drifting into fantasy bookings during the episode. The idea of a band like Fu Manchu slowing “Wonder Woman” down into a giant fuzz riff, or Jack White pressing a lovingly remastered Attila reissue for Record Store Day, feels weirdly plausible once you sit with these tracks. Part of the charm is that nobody, to our knowledge, has actually covered these songs, which means the right band could rescue them from novelty status and reframe them as foundational deep cuts in the lineage of heavy organ rock.

At the same time, you cannot completely detach Attila from the Billy Joel name. The knowledge that this is “the Piano Man guy” shapes how critics and fans react, whether that means harsher reviews from rock historians or raised eyebrows from casual listeners who only know “Uptown Girl.” We found that the most rewarding way to listen is to consciously bracket the future star and imagine this as a one off by an unknown duo, then go back and catch all the little melodic and harmonic fingerprints that would later show up in his mainstream work.

Verdict

By the end of the episode, we all landed in roughly the same place: Attila is a fascinating, often thrilling artifact that works best in short doses. There is an EP buried here, anchored by “Wonder Woman,” “California Flash,” “Revenge Is Sweet,” and “Tear This Castle Down,” that we would happily spin again and share with friends who love heavy organ and proto metal oddities. Beyond that core, the record starts to feel like a document of a young band overextending itself, stretching ideas into suites and solos that do not have the melodic or lyrical weight to justify their length.

What makes it worth hearing is not the songwriting so much as the combination of context and execution. This is a 1970 heavy rock album with no guitars, a proto metal document that hints at Sabbath and Deep Purple while sounding like neither, and an early showcase for a keyboard player whose future career would revolve around carefully crafted, radio friendly piano songs. If you are a Billy Joel fan, a 70s metal obsessive, or just someone who loves weird corners of rock history, Attila is one of those records that can rewire how you think about career arcs and genre boundaries.

We left the conversation with more questions than answers. How different would the rock canon look if this band had made a second, more focused record instead of imploding? What forgotten heavy albums from future adult contemporary stars are still hiding out there? And what would it take for a modern band to adopt Attila’s organ driven template and push it forward instead of treating it as a punchline? For now, Attila remains a cult curiosity that lives on YouTube and archive rips rather than streaming, and the only way to get our full verdict is to queue up the episode, ride through the meat locker with us, and drop your own take in the comments.

Episode Highlights

• 01:18: Poll rundown: Blue Öyster Cult, Rick Springfield, Attila, Circuit Rider, and who nominated what.

• 02:36: Billy Joel deep dive, from The Hassles to Attila to early bootleg compilations.

• 10:13: Reading the infamous “worst album in rock history” review and reactions.

• 17:21: Breaking down the Hammond through Marshall sound and the Sabbath sized weight of “Tear This Castle Down.”

• 24:14: Why the first three tracks feel like a legit heavy rock deep cut EP.

• 32:02: The post Attila crash, suicide attempt stories, and the Cold Spring Harbor pivot.

• 53:38: Imagining Attila reissues, stoner rock covers, and a “before they were famous” series on other artists.

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Love Outside Andromeda formed in Melbourne in 2000, and their name is basically a legal workaround. There was already a Swedish band called Andromeda operating in the same era, so the group settled on the fuller title to sidestep any confusion. Fronted by singer and guitarist Sianna Lee alongside guitarist Jamie Slocombe, bassist Jesse Lee, and drummer Joe Hammond, with cellist Alistair Watts contributing to the record, the band spent the early 2000s building toward this debut through a pair of EPs, “Umabel” in 2001 and “Something White and Sigmund” in 2003.

Most first albums sound like a band finding itself in real time. This one does not. The self-titled record, released in September 2004 on Shock Records, plays like a band that already knew exactly what it wanted to be, layered, textured, and unwilling to sit still inside one genre. The songwriting swings from finger-picked, almost folk-adjacent verses into distorted, angsty choruses, and the shift never feels forced, it earns every bit of tension it builds.

Sianna Lee’s voice does more work on this record than almost any vocalist we’ve covered in this genre. It moves from a near-whisper into something closer to classical phrasing, then snaps into full aggression without warning. On “Gonna Try to Be a Girl,” she lets her voice crack and squeal at exactly the right moment, a choice that reads as instinct rather than technique. It’s the kind of performance that makes you wonder why she wasn’t fronting a much bigger band by 2006.

The single “Something White and Sigmund” cracked number 65 on the Triple J Hottest 100 of 2003, and it’s the clearest entry point on the record, but the real magic is buried in the arrangement choices most listeners will miss on a first pass. Midway through that song, the band drops into a phased, distant-sounding version of the same vocal line, strips the drums down to cymbals and hi-hat, and lets an organ take over the guitar part before crashing back into the full arrangement. It’s a shoegaze detour hidden inside a garage rock single, and it barely announces itself.

The album peaked at number 77 on the ARIA Albums Chart and never received a U.S. release, not even on vinyl. Shock Records had some distribution reach for American artists inside Australia, but that traffic never seemed to run in the other direction for the label’s homegrown acts. 2004 belonged to bands like Jet, Interpol, and Bloc Party in the garage and post-punk revival lanes, and this band’s more restrained, dynamic-shifting approach simply didn’t fit the moment’s appetite for straightforward hooks.

Reaction from the Discord and Patreon community skewed almost entirely positive, with virtually nobody willing to say they disliked the record outright. Where the split shows up is in the details. Does the back half’s run of quieter, more introspective tracks reward patience or dilute momentum? Does a debut this deliberately layered deserve to be judged by the same standard as a band’s tenth record? We get into all of it, along with our full verdict, on the episode. Listen to the full conversation and drop a comment telling us where you land.

Episode Highlights

• 00:01:53: Gavin introduces the album and how he discovered it on Melbourne radio

• 00:03:20: The story behind the band’s name change from “Andromeda”

• 00:05:34: The surprisingly NSFW music video for “Something White and Sigmund”

• 00:09:18: Jay breaks down the album’s “sweet and salty” dynamic shifts

• 00:16:58: Comparisons to Tool, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and The Vines

• 00:22:04: Gavin dissects the hidden shoegaze breakdown inside “Something White and Sigmund”

• 00:34:03: Discussion of the album’s sequencing and the “samey” back half

• 00:41:40: Final verdicts and the Patreon poll results

• 00:52:08: Gavin’s history of bringing non-Australian and Australian picks to the show

This ballot is proof of that nuance in four records: a Sub Pop cash-grab that accidentally became a Rosetta Stone for two of the decade’s biggest bands, a criminally slept-on debut, a Springsteen-adjacent slow-burner, and a hard rock record that refused to soften up even after the power ballads took over radio. None of these fit the flannel-and-feedback caricature, and that’s the point.

The nominees

Green River — Dry as a Bone/Rehab Doll: Sub Pop bundled Green River’s two releases onto one 1990 LP to ride the grunge wave, and now you get to dig into the DNA that later split into Mudhoney’s noise and Pearl Jam’s arena-scale ache (submitted by Keith P Miller).

12 Rods — Split Personalities: A debut stacked with keyboard and guitar melodies that never got its due (submitted by Daron Faught).

Josh Rouse — Dressed Up Like Nebraska: If anyone other than Springsteen captured the bleakness of a Nebraska winter on record, this might be it (submitted by Keith Badje).

Skid Row — Slave to the Grind: Ass-kicking hard rock that barely blinked for a power ballad, fronted by one of the era’s genuine all-time vocalists in Sebastian Bach (submitted by Jake Miller).

The ballot’s public, but the vote isn’t — only paid members on Patreon and Substack get to pick the winner. Free readers get to watch this fight happen; members get to decide how it ends.

What happens next

Whichever record takes it becomes a full podcast episode and Substack deep-dive, complete with the poll recap, member comments read on air, band history, our ratings, and yours.

If you want a say in whether Green River’s messy grunge blueprint beats a Sebastian Bach power move, this is the line between watching and deciding. Cast your vote, then drop a comment: which album on this ballot got robbed?

Jeremy Amend has been picking 90s deep cuts for us for years. This time he crossed the aisle into 80s metal and brought Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, the record that turned neoclassical shred from a rumor into a genre. It is the album that made “guitar virtuoso” a viable solo career, not a backup gig. Want to bring YOUR favorite lost album to the table? Suggest it for a future episode or community poll at

Why did a nineteen year old singer end up fronting a guitarist who barely wanted him there?

A Swede Named Lars Who Became Yngwie

The man behind Rising Force was not born Yngwie Malmsteen. He entered the world in Stockholm in 1963 as Lars Johan Yngwie Lannerbäck, and only started using his maternal grandmother’s maiden name, Malmsteen, after his mother reverted to it. By the time he recorded this debut, he had already logged time in Steeler and Alcatraz, restless stints where he was, in essence, a hired gun waiting to become the boss. Rising Force is the sound of him finally getting the whole show to himself, no band name out front, just his own name and a mostly instrumental record built entirely on his terms.

Neoclassical Shred, Before It Had a Name

This album is credited with crystallizing neoclassical metal into an actual movement rather than a scattered influence. Guitarists like Ritchie Blackmore and Uli Jon Roth had flirted with classical phrasing in the 70s, but Rising Force is where that idea became a concrete genre, one built on scales, arpeggios, and structure borrowed straight from Bach and Vivaldi rather than blues. It effectively split 80s guitar playing into two camps, the Eddie Van Halen school and the Yngwie Malmsteen school, occupying opposite ends of a spectrum that most metal guitarists since have had to define themselves against. That fork in the road opened the door for the entire Shrapnel Records roster and eventually launched players like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani into wider recognition.

The Nineteen Year Old Voice on the Record

The two vocal tracks on the album feature Jeff Scott Soto, who was around nineteen at the time and went on to a genuinely wild resume: a short run with Journey, sessions for Lita Ford and Stryper, and vocals for the fictional band Steel Dragon in the film Rockstar. Soto returns for the 1985 follow-up, Marching Out, and by most accounts the band figured out how to actually build songs around his voice by that second record. Here, the vocals feel closer to an afterthought layered onto guitar-first compositions, which is part of why some longtime fans consider this the purer statement of who Malmsteen actually is as an artist.

Restraint, Then Release

What sets Rising Force apart from a lot of shred-guitar records is the production. The guitar tone carries far less overdrive than Malmsteen’s later work, closer to a classic rock or Jimi Hendrix-influenced sound than a typical mid-80s metal record, and the drums have a loose, roomy feel rather than a tight, triggered attack. That restraint matters because it makes the moments where the playing does explode, tracks like “Black Star” and “Evil Eye,” land harder. Rather than following a standard verse-chorus rock structure, songs like the eight-minute “Icarus Dream Suite Op. 4” move through multiple sections the way a classical suite would, alternating slow acoustic passages, riff-driven sections, and extended solo runs.

What Happened After

Malmsteen chased the commercial breakthrough that finally arrived on 1988’s Odyssey, which brought in veteran singer Joe Lynn Turner and produced his biggest hit, “Heaven Tonight.” Rising Force, by contrast, never got a shot at radio the same way, staying a cult touchstone for guitar-obsessed listeners rather than a commercial entry point. Malmsteen remains an enormous draw in Japan to this day, still performing pieces like “Icarus Dream Suite” with full orchestras.

The Verdict

Community reaction split, some listeners loved the technical proficiency and neoclassical structure, others found the extended instrumental runs self-indulgent or repetitive at points, and there was real disagreement over whether the vocal tracks help or hurt the record. Does an album built almost entirely around one guitarist’s virtuosity hold up as a front-to-back listen, or does it work better as a handful of standout tracks? Should the vocal songs have been cut entirely, or expanded and given more attention? Is this really the “purest” Malmsteen record, or is that just nostalgia talking? We get into all of it, plus where this stacks up against Odyssey and Trilogy, on the full episode. Give it a listen and drop a comment with your own verdict.

Episode Highlights

• 00:02: Jeremy’s pick: Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, why he chose an 80s record after years of 90s picks

• 04:11: The mystery of the “J”: Yngwie’s real birth name and family history

• 06:18: Jeff Scott Soto’s resume, from Journey to Saigon Kick to Steel Dragon

• 10:03: Community comments from the Metal Union on Jeremy’s pick

• 11:46: How Jeremy discovered Malmsteen through his brother’s cassette collection

• 30:14: Is this the first neoclassical guitar solo album in rock history

• 33:54: The Shrapnel Records pipeline and how it launched Vai and Satriani

• 35:38: What doesn’t work: the vocal tracks and where the playing gets repetitive

• 46:52: Jeremy’s deep-cut observations on Far Beyond the Sun, Evil Eye, and Icarus Dream Suite

• 52:15: Final ratings and community poll results

Replicants sound like a bootleg transmission from the 90s alternative multiverse. A Cars single, a Wings hit, a T. Rex deep cut, and a Pink Floyd obscurity all get dragged through the same dense, space-rock filter that Failure perfected on Fantastic Planet. The result is a record that feels less like a casual covers project and more like a glimpse into a path the members never had time to fully explore.

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The band that almost was

Replicants were a side project made up of Ken Andrews and Greg Edwards of Failure, Paul D’Amour right after his exit from Tool, and Chris Pitman, a player who would go on to work with Guns N’ Roses, Blinker the Star, and the psychedelic project Lusk. The plan, at least at first, was to be an original band, a fun outlet outside the high-pressure worlds of Fantastic Planet and Undertow. The original material never quite came together, schedules got chaotic, so the group pivoted to something they could do quickly and enjoyably: a covers album built from songs they already loved.

Released in November 1995 on Zoo Entertainment, the label that also handled Failure, Tool, Matthew Sweet, and Green Jellÿ, Replicants arrived in the middle of peak 90s alt-rock saturation. The band name itself nods to Blade Runner; replicants are the artificial humans Harrison Ford’s character hunts, and there is a certain sci‑fi chill in how this record reanimates classic songs inside a more mechanized, spacey frame.

On paper it looked like a cult hit waiting to happen: members from rising critical darlings, a tracklist that threaded classic rock radio, glam, and synth pop, plus a guest appearance by Maynard James Keenan singing “Silly Love Songs.” In reality, it came out, got some college radio love, spawned a “Destination Unknown” video, then quietly went out of print and never returned to streaming, likely due to the licensing mess of eleven different songwriters and publishers.

A covers album built like a Failure record

If you are a Failure fan, this record is immediate comfort food. The guitars have that thick, controlled crunch, the dynamics swell and collapse in familiar ways, and Ken Andrews’ voice sits right in the same dry, intimate pocket as it does on Fantastic Planet. The twist, and the reason this album is interesting at all, is that he is forced to inhabit melodies and phrasings he would never have written, which pulls the whole band into new shapes.

“Dirty Work,” originally by Steely Dan, is a good early example. The original has a breezy, almost cheery feel that hides its lyric about being used; here, the band leans into more melancholy guitar voicings and a heavier rhythmic pulse, though the vocal melody stays close enough that you still feel the song’s soft-rock DNA. It is not a radical reinvention, but it does feel like a Failure song cosplaying as Steely Dan, slightly sadder and more resigned.

The glam detours are where the project gets more interesting. “Life’s a Gas,” a lesser-known T. Rex tune from Electric Warrior, slows into a patient, textured space where the band’s love of syncopated picking, layered guitars, and ambient swells fits naturally. “The Bewlay Brothers,” a deep cut from David Bowie’s Hunky Dory, becomes the most ambitious piece here, stretching out past seven minutes and building strings, horns, and atmosphere into something that feels only half like a Bowie cover and half like a new entry in Failure’s catalog.

You can hear Chris Pitman’s presence most clearly on the synth-forward tracks. “How Do You Sleep?,” John Lennon’s famously venomous answer to Paul McCartney, morphs into a Depeche Mode‑adjacent synth piece with a dry, close-miked drum and bass section late in the song that feels like something off Off the Wall in terms of tone and tightness. “Are ‘Friends’ Electric?,” originally by Tubeway Army and Gary Numan, lands almost too close to its 1979 blueprint, but it does underline how comfortably the Failure sound could have lived in late‑70s synth pop.

The emotional center, though, is “Silly Love Songs.” Written by McCartney as a response to Lennon’s digs on “How Do You Sleep?,” it becomes something darker and more threatening in Replicants’ hands, especially when Maynard’s voice slides in. Parts of the arrangement feel like a horror movie trailer version of Wings, with the “I love you” section slowed and stretched until it feels menacing instead of goofy. It is a reminder of how easily affectionate pop can be turned into something unnerving with just a change in tempo, tone, and harmony.

Where the covers crack

The hardest part about reviewing a covers album is untangling your relationship with the originals. On Replicants, that tension is baked into almost every track, and it sometimes works against the record.

“Cinnamon Girl,” from Neil Young’s Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, is the clearest miss for us. The band nails a modernized version of Young’s metallic, crude guitar tone while filtering it through Failure’s more processed sound, but the arrangement hugs the original so tightly that it raises the recurring question: why listen to this instead of going back to Neil. The added handclaps in the chorus give it a surprisingly cheery feel that fights against the heaviness of the riff, and nothing in the vocal or harmony choices reframes the song.

“Destination Unknown,” a Missing Persons single, was reportedly picked as the radio track and got an actual video. Hearing it now, that choice feels like a label move; the Replicants version leans into drum machines and a Nine Inch Nails‑style groove in a way that sands off the organic drum feel that makes Failure’s own catalog so alive. It is easy to imagine someone at Zoo thinking they were getting their own “Closer” moment in 1995, but to our ears it ends up sounding like a slightly cheap NIN cosplay.

On the other end of the spectrum you have “Just What I Needed,” the Cars classic that opens the album. The band famously tweak the chord under the iconic keyboard melody, introducing a darker, diminished feel that can be genuinely jarring the first time you hear it. Once you know it is coming, that wrong‑footed chord becomes a feature rather than a bug, but it is a good example of how this record can oscillate between “clever reinvention” and “mildly irritating sabotage” depending on how much reverence you have for the original.

This tension runs through “Are ‘Friends’ Electric?” and “Ibiza Bar” as well, the latter a deep cut from Pink Floyd that already lived in a slow, spacey zone before Replicants got to it. When a band whose whole thing is atmosphere and space covers Pink Floyd, you risk stacking atmosphere on atmosphere without adding insight; the track works as textural album closer, but it does not fully answer the “why does this version need to exist” question.

Supergroups, side projects, and the weight of expectation

Part of the fascination with Replicants is how neatly it fits into the supergroup and side‑project boom. The episode compares it to acts like Audioslave and Velvet Revolver, where the member lineups promised a lot and the end result felt more “pretty good” than mind‑blowing. In hindsight, that might say more about our expectations than the music; it is incredibly hard for any band to live up to the fantasy version of “Failure plus Tool plus this other guy.”

In this context, Replicants make more sense as a pressure valve than as a grand artistic statement. You can hear Ken and Greg experimenting with synths and textures that would later surface in projects like On and Autolux, and you can imagine a world where Chris Pitman shows up as a live guest with Failure to add keys and atmospherics to a few songs. The record even nudges you to wish Failure leaned harder into these directions now and then, trading some of the guitar density for more off‑kilter synth and organ moments.

The practical reality, though, is that the album has been hard to hear for years. It is out of print physically and has never hit the major streaming services, which likely comes down to the time, cost, and sheer bureaucracy of clearing eleven covers across multiple labels and estates for a niche side project. The label was willing to roll that dice in 1995, when CD sales and college radio exposure might justify the hassle, but the calculus looks very different now.

Candy for Failure fans, a puzzle for everyone else

So where does Replicants land in 2026. Inside our little circle, we split between calling it a worthy album and trimming it to an EP. One of us could build an eight-song version that feels strong front to back, built around “Silly Love Songs,” “Life’s a Gas,” “How Do You Sleep?,” “No Good Trying,” “Dirty Work,” “The Bewlay Brothers,” “Destination Unknown,” and “Are ‘Friends’ Electric?.” Another would cut more aggressively, landing on a six‑song EP where “The Bewlay Brothers” and “Ibiza Bar” stand out precisely because they were not burned into our brains before this record.

Outside the Failure ecosystem, the value proposition is murkier. If you are not already tuned to their space‑rock frequency, do these versions help you hear McCartney, Lennon, Young, or Bowie in a new way, or do they just sound like well‑played 90s alt‑rock curios. How much should we expect a covers album to transform its source material before it “counts” as its own statement.

Critic and fan sentiment online tends to frame Replicants as an intriguing footnote, praised for its taste and mood, questioned for its inconsistency. Around our community, some voters called it “college radio gold” and held it up as proof of how creative the 90s could be when major labels gave weird side projects a budget. Others found it less compelling than the sum of its parts, especially compared to the core catalogs of Failure and Tool.

We keep coming back to a few questions that feel worth handing to you:

• Which covers here actually change how you hear the original song, and which ones are just alternate skins.

• Does a covers record by a band like this need to be great to justify its existence, or is “fun experiment” enough.

• If you are a Failure fan, does this make you want them to stretch further into synths and glam textures on future records.

• And in an era where this album is hard to access, how much does scarcity itself color your perception of its value.

Listen to the full episode for our detailed breakdown, track by track nerding out, and final rating, then drop a comment and tell us which song you think they absolutely nailed and which one they never should have touched.

Episode Highlights

• 00:18: Poll setup and the April ballot, explaining how Replicants won after losing a previous round and what that says about persistence in our community.

• 05:53: Introducing Replicants as a Tool and Failure side project, breaking down the lineup and how the band came together mid‑Fantastic Planet.

• 11:07: Context on Zoo Entertainment, Maynard James Keenan’s guest spot on “Silly Love Songs,” and the decision to push “Destination Unknown” as the single.

• 19:59: Community comments on the poll, from “Replicants all day” to doubts about supergroups and cover albums in general.

• 1:41:19: Deep dive on “Silly Love Songs” and “How Do You Sleep?,” exploring how the band reframes the Lennon–McCartney feud in a darker, more menacing way.

• 2:02:38: The glam and Pink Floyd moments, discussing “Life’s a Gas,” “The Bewlay Brothers,” and “Ibiza Bar” as the album’s most ambitious, space‑rock‑leaning tracks.

• 2:45:22: Final verdicts: album vs EP, who this is actually for, and why it remains out of print and off streaming.

• A big‑league hard rock band right before the 80s kicked the doors in.

• A “wait, the Jessie’s Girl dude did this first?” revelation.

• A burnout psych artifact that sounds like it shouldn’t exist.

• And Billy Joel, fronting what basically feels like a deli metal band.

The winning album becomes a full Dig Me Out episode and Substack feature: band history, track‑by‑track, host ratings, and a community score built from your ratings. We’ll pull comments into the episode and post, so if you want your defense of Spectres or your rant about Attila on the record, this is your shot.

Got a different 70s album you’re dying to see on a future ballot? Drop an album in the hopper and we’ll keep pulling these lineups from your nominations.

The nominees

Blue Öyster Cult – Spectres (1977)

nominated by Eric Peterson

Eric calls this “the fifth of their must‑listen first five studio albums,” the moment where BÖC have fully grown into a cult band tucked between their best‑known hits. Spectres is a hard rock record with softer moments and songs that basically herald the coming 80s AOR and pop‑metal sounds, right alongside the campy horror rock that later bands like The Misfits, White Zombie, and Metallica would echo. If you want us in that midnight‑movie zone where riffs, hooks, and horror all blur together, this is your pick.

Start here: “Godzilla” and “I Love the Night” on the album stream.

Rick Springfield – Wait for Night (1976)

nominated by Scott Halgrim

Scott’s pitch starts with a twist: Working Class Dog—you know, the one with “Jessie’s Girl”—was actually Springfield’s fifth (or sixth or seventh, depending how you count) album. Wait for Nightis the “would you believe it’s frickin’ amazing?” pre‑history, an album he argues stands as an equal with the big three career‑defining records that came next. If you’ve written Springfield off as a singles guy, this is the one that might convert you.

Start here: Drop into the full playlist and see how many choruses lodge in your brain.

Attila – Attila (1970)

nominated by john bordeaux

“Billy Joel and his buddy go hard rock.” That’s john’s whole setup, and honestly, what else do you need? Attila is a glorious, infamous wrong turn: all fuzz bass, distorted organ, and proto‑metal swagger from a guy most people only know from “Piano Man.” Is it good? Is it terrible? Is it both at once? That’s exactly why it’s on this ballot—it’s a perfect Dig Me Out “how did this happen?” episode candidate.

Start here: Put on the album, then imagine 70s radio programmers trying to figure out what to do with it.

Circuit Rider – Circuit Rider (1971)

nominated by Marmaduke

Marmaduke calls this “the ultimate burnout biker‑psych masterpiece… a 40‑minute recipe for a mental breakdown,” and that’s not overselling it. Circuit Rider is all haunted vocals, damaged Americana, and desolate guitar, a private‑press artifact so unhinged it’s sparked the mystery: could this actually be Jim Morrison under another name? If you want us way out on the fringe, this is the pick.

Start here: Fire up the full album and see how long it takes before you question your life choices—in a good way.

If you’re reading this free and yelling at your screen about which record has to win, this is the moment to make it happen. Whichever album takes it, that episode will exist because members pushed it to the top—where are you putting your vot

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The year guitar rock grew up

1976 was supposed to belong to disco, MOR pop, and singer‑songwriters. The Billboard year‑end list is loaded with “A Fifth of Beethoven,” “Disco Lady,” “Don’t Go Breaking My Heart,” and “50 Ways to Leave Your Lover,” while the biggest “rock” presence is Queen with “Bohemian Rhapsody” and Aerosmith with a revived “Dream On.” The charts are soft‑focus and string‑heavy, yet underneath that glossy surface a very different story is playing out in album land: hard rock bands making two records a year, European groups getting heavier and stranger, and a Boston engineer named Tom Scholz quietly building spaceship guitars in his basement.

Boston’s debut is the hinge that explains why 1976 feels like a pivot. Recorded largely at Scholz’s home studio, then released by Epic Records in August, Boston fused classical‑leaning guitar lines, stacked harmonies, and radio‑ready hooks into eight songs that still dominate classic rock playlists. “More Than a Feeling,” “Peace of Mind,” and “Foreplay/Long Time” are precision‑engineered, yet they breathe like a bar band that has been woodshedding for years. When we talk in the episode about albums that are “jammy but laser‑focused,” this is the record we mean: long instrumental sections that would get sliced away a decade later, presented here as the whole point.

At the same time, you can hear how saturated the landscape already is. By 1976, Grand Funk Railroad are on their tenth and eleventh albums, Golden Earring hit their eleventh, Nazareth release albums seven and eight, and the James Gang bow out with their ninth. The classic rock machine is well into its veteran phase. That tension, between bands digging deeper into careers and new sounds trying to crash the party, is what makes 1976 so fun to revisit.

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Two albums in one year

One thing that keeps blowing our minds about 1976 is the output. Thin Lizzy release Jailbreak in March, then end up back in the studio for Johnny the Fox when Phil Lynott’s hepatitis sidelines touring. The second album is almost an accident, written and recorded when the band cannot go on the road, and made under the cloud of Brian Robertson being fired, rehired, and fired again during the sessions. Yet out of that chaos you still get swaggering hard rock that extends the Jailbreak palette rather than recycling it.

Kiss push themselves just as hard. In March they release Destroyer with producer Bob Ezrin, all strings, sound effects, and the ballad “Beth.” By November they have Rock and Roll Over on the shelves, recorded with Eddie Kramer in a stripped‑down, live‑in‑the‑room style that feels like a reaction to their own bombast. In the span of eight months they go from Broadway‑sized concept rock to raw, four‑on‑the‑floor crunch and still have enough juice left to nearly get Ace Frehley killed when he is shocked on stage in Lakeland, Florida, a near‑electrocution that later inspires “Shock Me.”

Behind them, Nazareth squeeze in Close Enough for Rock ’n’ Roll and Play ’n’ the Game. Wishbone Ash deliver both Locked In and New England. Uriah Heep put out High and Mighty in May and then close the year with Firefly. Even if some of these records feel like transitional entries today, it is wild to remember that in a pre‑MTV world, bands are telling the story of their evolution through two LPs a year, not an album cycle stretched over half a decade.

That pace explains a lot of what we hear when we listen back. Some albums are tight and focused because the band is on fire. Others sound tired, the riffs running out, the cocaine catching up. Either way, 1976 gives you more snapshots per band than almost any other year.

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Seeds of metal: Priest, Scorpions, Rainbow, and Rush

While Boston and the arena crowd are perfecting melodic rock, something heavier is quietly taking shape. Judas Priest release Sad Wings of Destiny, their second album, and you can hear the template for much of 80s metal starting to click. The twin guitars, the operatic vocal lines, the sense that heaviness can be elegant and structured rather than just a fuzz pedal slammed into the red, all of that starts here.

Scorpions are already on album four with Virgin Killer, sharpening the European metal edge that will later carry them into arenas. Rainbow move from side project to full statement with Rising and the eight‑minute “Stargazer,” a song that feels like Led Zeppelin’s “Kashmir” rewritten as sword‑and‑sorcery opera. You can practically hear power metal being born bar by bar.

Even Rush are in pivot mode. 2112 arrives in March, a heavy‑prog suite that takes the technicality of British prog and bolts it onto a harder rhythmic engine. If early 70s prog is all about Yes and Gentle Giant, 1976 Rush is already pointing toward a different lineage: intricate, conceptual, but with enough muscle in the riffs that metal bands will claim them as ancestors.

The strange part is that the original prototypes are struggling just as their ideas spread. Black Sabbath release Technical Ecstasy in October, a creatively restless album that experiments with slicker production, melodic detours, and even a Bill Ward lead vocal while Sabbath’s influence on other bands starts to lag behind their own name recognition. Ozzy is one album away from leaving, the band is recording in Miami with all the chaos that implies, and you can feel the fatigue in the grooves. 1976 is the weird moment when Sabbath are both the blueprint and already a bit lost, while younger bands interpret their sound in ways they themselves are not.

Punks at the gate: Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Blondie

Outside the hard rock bubble, 1976 is also the year the punk fuse really gets lit. In April, Ramones drop their debut on Sire Records, a 14‑song, 29‑minute reset button that makes a lot of the mid‑70s rock establishment sound ancient overnight. By October, the Sex Pistols have signed with EMI and released “Anarchy in the U.K.,” and The Damned have issued “New Rose,” one of the first British punk singles.

On the edges of that scene, Blondie release their debut, a record that folds girl‑group pop, garage rock, and nascent new wave into something that critics file under “punk” simply because they share a scene with Ramones and Television. In the episode, we talk about Blondie as one of those bands who never really stay in one lane, which makes them hard to slot into the “metal and hard rock” context, but essential to understanding how 1976 sounds in New York clubs compared to American radio.

From the other side of the Atlantic, a band like Gasolin’ complicates the picture even more. In Denmark they are massive, selling out arenas and working with Roy Thomas Baker on big, distorted rock records, but because they sing in Danish they barely leave a trace in the US. When they try an English‑language push with What a Lemon, it becomes one more 1976 curiosity rather than a new pillar of the canon. The borders of what “counts” as classic rock are already being drawn in language and distribution, not just sound.

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Deep cuts and private‑press ghosts

Beyond the headline acts, one of the joys of doing this episode is the research rabbit hole. We go hunting for the 1976 equivalent of future Bandcamp bands and find a different ecosystem. There is no global indie network yet, but there are private‑press records and regional scenes where bands press a few hundred copies and disappear.

A Midwest band like Truth and Janey makes a gritty hard rock record, but their story lives in collector circles rather than magazines. Pittsburgh’s Diamond Reo (not the later country act) and a group like Marcus with Pillow Stars exist at the knife edge where leafing through crates or falling into YouTube holes becomes the only way to find them.

Then there is Solid Ground’s Made in Rock, a Swedish private‑press monster where only 200 copies were pressed and 170 destroyed. For decades it is one of those records that sells for several thousand dollars because the original pressing is effectively mythical. Sonically, it sounds more like the future stoner and doom bands than the glossy 1976 mainstream, which is part of why it hits so hard today. In 1976 no one is calling it proto‑stoner rock; it is just another obscure European heavy album. Now it feels like an early blueprint for an entire later scene.

We also talk about how different European blues‑rock feels compared to American equivalents. Where US bands drift toward slicker, guitar‑hero‑centric records, Scandinavian groups like Solid Ground or Gasolin’ embrace thicker distortion, stranger arrangements, and an almost Sabbath‑via‑Budgie heaviness that does not map neatly onto what was on US radio. That contrast becomes one of the hidden stories of 1976.

Boston, presence, and the burnout of giants

Looping back to the mainline classics, 1976 is also one of the oddest Led Zeppelin years. Presence arrives in March, a leaner, more anxious record that still contains epics like “Achilles Last Stand.” Later in October, the concert film and live album The Song Remains the Same lands, documenting a 1973 version of the band that already feels like a different era. Zeppelin are simultaneously present‑tense and archival, and by 1976 younger bands are less directly copying them than you might expect.

We hear only a handful of obvious Zeppelin echoes in 1976 records: Rainbow’s “Stargazer” borrowing the rolling grandeur of “Kashmir,” parts of UFO’s “I’m a Loser” evoking the acoustic build of “Ramble On,” and a Montrose track where the post‑Sammy Hagar singer shades closer to Robert Plant than feels coincidental. For the most part, 1976 rock bands are pointed at their contemporaries, not their parents. Angel and Starz feel like Kiss satellites. Arena‑ready acts like Heart are moving toward radio single polish, away from their folky roots.

Against that backdrop, Boston’s debut almost feels like science fiction. Scholz is using custom‑built gear, carefully controlled overdubs, and classical‑inspired dynamics to make a record that is both heavier than much of the radio rock around it and far cleaner. The fact that it is tracked largely in a small Massachusetts basement and then partially finished in a pro studio gives it this hybrid DNA: basement‑band obsessiveness with big‑studio sheen. That sound becomes a template for power‑pop‑leaning hard rock for years.

We want to hear from you:

• If you had to pick one 1976 hard rock or metal album to keep, what is it and why?

• Do you hear Boston as the birth of a cleaner, more engineered heavy rock, or as the last moment before radio rock gets too slick?

• Which private‑press or non‑US 1976 records have you discovered that deserve to be in this conversation?

• Do you remember when punk first made the classic rock bands you loved feel “old,” whether in the 70s, 80s, or 90s?

Listen to the full episode for the deep cuts, disagreements, and side quests we could not fit here, then drop your own 1976 pick in the comments so we can keep building this alternate history together.

Episode highlights

02:30: Billboard Top 10 of 1976, the disco and soft rock snapshot that hides what is happening on albums.

06:45: Two albums a year, the sprinting schedules of Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Uriah Heep, and more.

12:10: Thin Lizzy’s hepatitis detour, how a canceled tour accidentally gives us Johnny the Fox.

17:30: Counting our own shelves, how many 1976 albums we actually own and still spin.

24:10: Kiss vs Kiss, the theatrical Destroyer against the raw Rock and Roll Over in the same year.

29:20: Gasolin’, Solid Ground, and the strange, heavier sound of 70s Scandinavian rock.

33:30: Sabbath at a crossroads, Technical Ecstasy and the feeling of a prototype band losing the plot.

37:40: Zeppelin echoes, where we actually hear the “Kashmir” and “Ramble On” DNA in lesser‑known 1976 tracks.

41:50: Boston as a production milestone, why the debut still sounds impossibly clean and big.

The Glam Explosion That Broke Daytime MTV

Here’s what happened between 1984 and 1986: metal expanded beyond just being scary.

After Quiet Riot became the first hard rock band to score a number-one album in 1984, the genre broke into mainstream consciousness. Then the PMRC Senate hearings of 1985 gave the music a problem: it needed to stop being threatening. By 1986, the solution was in the videos. Make them colorful. Make them fun. Start somewhere relatable: a bedroom, a garage, a studio. Then escalate into an idealized fantasy of concert performance. Replace leather and skulls with neon and teased hair. What had been relegated to late-night Headbangers Ball slots now fit the 3 PM MTV daypart. The music and the medium found each other.

Bon Jovi’s Slippery When Wet is the commercial monument to that shift. Released August 18, 1986, it rolled out singles for nearly a full year after release: “You Give Love a Bad Name” in July, “Livin’ on a Prayer” in October, “Wanted Dead or Alive” the following March, “Never Say Goodbye” in June of 1987. Each one was bigger than the last. The year before, Bon Jovi had been opening for Billy Squier. The key differentiator from their earlier work: the arrival of Desmond Child as co-writer on the two biggest singles, bringing professional hit-making infrastructure to what was already a committed band.

Poison’s Look What the Cat Dragged In was doing the same thing with less money. Their starting address was Enigma Records, home to They Might Be Giants, The Cramps, Dead Milkmen, and Devo. An underground punk label, not a hair metal machine. Capitol entered the picture later, which explains why “Cry Tough” barely moved and “Talk Dirty to Me” became an MTV staple. Poison didn’t just succeed with this blueprint; they franchised it.

Van Halen’s 5150 added keyboards and landed the best Sammy Hagar-era album in the process. David Lee Roth’s Eat ‘Em and Smile amplified the campy fun of his Van Halen years into a career highlight. Cinderella’s Night Songs made the sharpest glam debut of the year: darker and more concise than anything they’d produce later, before the bluesy detours took over. Jon Bon Jovi helped them record it. That’s how fast the food chain was moving in 1986.

The Thrash Revolution Running in Parallel

Here’s the thing about thrash in 1986: it wasn’t hidden. Headbangers Ball existed. The magazines covered it. Metallica opened for Ozzy on the Ultimate Sin arena tour. But in the daytime MTV ecosystem, thrash was not the default. If you wanted it, you had to find it

Master of Puppets is eight songs long, 54 minutes, and sounded like nothing on daytime MTV or rock radio. It is heavy and precise and expansive in equal measure: a record where the title track alone runs over eight minutes and earns every second. It was Metallica’s third album, the last one with Cliff Burton, and it was recorded without a single thought given to MTV rotation or radio airplay. No videos. No singles. Just the record, and the word that spread through tape trading, zines, college radio metal shows, and the underground networks that thrash metal relied on before the internet existed.

What makes 1986 extraordinary is that Metallica wasn’t alone. Slayer’s Reign in Blood came out the same year: 29 minutes of something faster and more extreme than Master of Puppets, an album that even people who don’t follow Slayer know by reputation. Megadeth’s Peace Sells... But Who’s Buying? completed what might be the single most concentrated year of output from the Big Four of thrash metal: three of the four bands releasing arguably their best records in a twelve-month span. Anthrax didn’t have an album in 1986. If they had, it would have been a clean sweep.

From the German side of the Atlantic, Kreator’s Pleasure to Kill was happening simultaneously: the Teutonic thrash scene developing its own parallel lineage that would eventually be recognized as a pioneer of death and black metal. These weren’t crossover acts. They weren’t on MTV. But they were building the foundation that would outlast nearly everything in the charts.

The thrash revolution of 1986 wasn’t a secret, but it was a deliberate choice. Headbangers Ball ran late. Daytime belonged to Poison and Bon Jovi. You could be into both, but at school you were expected to pick a jersey. Admitting you preferred Master of Puppets over Slippery When Wet was a statement, and not everyone in 1986 was ready to make it out loud.

Legacy Bands: Update or Resist?

Every established metal act in 1986 faced the same question: how much do you change?

Judas Priest’s Turbo is the case study in what too much looks like. Their tenth album added synthesizer guitars and chased the MTV aesthetic in ways that have remained controversial ever since. Some decent songs are buried in there, but Turbo is the canonical example of a decade-spanning band trying on a new identity because the culture demanded it, and not quite threading the needle.

Ozzy Osbourne’s The Ultimate Sin represents a different calculation. The image got teased and colorful. The videos fit the 3 PM slot. But the album had Jake E. Lee playing with a flashy intensity that gave it a musical spine the presentation didn’t undercut. Ozzy reportedly hated it. Others call it his best solo record: a bridge between his 1970s legacy and the glam-era present that actually holds together. When Metallica opened for Ozzy on the Ultimate Sin arena tour, the lineup said everything about where the genre stood. The scariest band in the underground, opening for a legacy act who’d made himself MTV-friendly. The irony runs deep.

Black Sabbath’s Seventh Star was never supposed to be a Black Sabbath album. Tony Iommi assembled it as a solo project with Glenn Hughes on vocals, Eric Singer on drums, and Dave Spitz on bass. The label insisted the Sabbath name go on it. The video for “No Stranger to Love” is keyboard-driven and barely resembles Sabbath because, structurally, it isn’t. What it is, divorced from its title and backstory, is a genuinely interesting record with a remarkable cast. It has been submitted to multiple DMO polls. It has not yet won. It keeps getting submitted.

Iron Maiden’s Somewhere in Time added keyboards lightly and reads today as the last album before the tinkering accelerated. Europe’s The Final Countdown produced one of the most inescapable songs of the decade and an album none of us heard past the singles. The legacy-band class of 1986 is full of acts choosing between integrity and relevance. The ones who chose wrong are instructive.

The Deep Cuts That Shaped Everything (and Nobody Witnessed)

Here’s the version of 1986 that doesn’t show up on year-end lists.

In June of that year, a Swedish doom metal band called Candlemass released their debut album, Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, on a label called Black Dragon Records. It did not sell. It did not chart. It was not played on the radio or shown on MTV. It was, by most measurable standards, invisible. What it was doing, quietly and without witnesses, was inventing doom metal as a genre. Every band that has worked in that sonic territory for the past forty years carries a Candlemass debt, whether they know it or not.

Guns N’ Roses’ Live ?!@ Like a Suicide is a different kind of deep cut: a 1986 self-released EP on GN’R’s own Uzi Suicide label, predating Appetite for Destruction by a full year. Some people had it. They read about the band in Hit Parader and Circus, bought the cassette, and wrote the band’s name on their textbook covers. Then they came home from college and the cassette was gone, lost in a couch cushion somewhere, probably worth a lot of money now. That cassette is a small but perfect metaphor for 1986: the thing you knew about first, the object you can no longer find.

The Transformers: The Movie soundtrack connects 1986 to something else entirely: the year metal started showing up in animated children’s films, delivered by Stan Bush, Lion, and members of Kick Axe performing as Spectre General. For kids who saw the movie it was a first exposure to the genre.

Our Picks, Three Different Arguments

Every roundtable eventually comes down to someone having to choose.

Poison’s Look What the Cat Dragged In. The blueprint for hair metal as a cultural phenomenon. The DIY machine that started on a punk indie label and franchised itself across the next four years. It is not the deepest record of 1986. But it is the one that most completely captures what the year felt like at 3 PM on a Tuesday when MTV was on. That counts for something.

Metallica’s Master of Puppets is the credibility anchor. The last Cliff Burton record. The document of everything Metallica was before the first video and the commercial pivot. Every move they have made since gets measured against this one, and most of them come up short. The underground case, closed.

Ozzy Osbourne’s The Ultimate Sin is the legacy act threading the needle correctly, or at least fascinatingly. Jake E. Lee at full power. Ozzy navigating from his 1970s origin into 1986 accessibility in a way that doesn’t fully betray either. An album Ozzy reportedly hated. A pick none of us saw coming.

That’s 1986.

Episode Highlights

• 0:00: Intro. Why we went back to 1986: the year we were all buying cassettes and picking sides.

• 1:52: The Transformers: The Movie soundtrack as a metal gateway. Stan Bush, Lion, and a very upsetting death for 11-year-olds.

• 4:07: Cassette-buying memories. Where we each were, financially and musically, in 1986.

• 8:08: The PMRC timeline and how hair metal broke onto daytime MTV in 1986, colorful videos replacing darker imagery.

• 11:36: Judas Priest’s Turbo as the prime example of a legacy band adding keyboards and chasing the MTV moment.

• 14:08: 1986 as the greatest single year in thrash metal history. Master of Puppets, Reign in Blood, and Peace Sells all released within months of each other.

• 15:02: Walking into Richfield Coliseum for the last 30 seconds of Metallica opening for Ozzy, and genuinely not caring at the time.

• 16:04: Listening to Master of Puppets in secret on the school bus while claiming to listen to Bon Jovi or Night Ranger.

• 17:28: Why Cinderella’s Night Songs holds up: darker and tighter than later work, no big ballad epics, Jon Bon Jovi’s behind-the-scenes role.

• 20:03: Bon Jovi’s rocket-ship year. The full single timeline from You Give Love a Bad Name through Never Say Goodbye, and Desmond Child’s co-writing role.

• 22:49: Seeing Poison open for Quiet Riot at the Cleveland Agora reopening. Studying the Look What the Cat Dragged In album cover beforehand. Expecting at least one woman in the band.

• 25:22: Poison’s DIY punk ethic and their unlikely starting home on Enigma Records alongside They Might Be Giants and The Minutemen.

• 27:56: Candlemass’s Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: doom metal’s invisible ground zero, released June 1986, heard by almost nobody.

• 30:07: The Guns N’ Roses Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide EP story. Buying it before anyone knew who they were, writing GN’R on textbooks, and losing the cassette after college.

• 32:11: Queensryche’s Rage for Order as a musicians’ landmark, more influential among players than general audiences.

• 34:43: Black Sabbath’s Seventh Star. The Tony Iommi solo album the label forced into being a Sabbath record, and the DMO poll it keeps losing.

• 37:44: Vinnie Vincent Invasion: Poison taken to its extreme. Pink guitars, pop DNA at maximum volume, and a singer switcheroo from Robert Fleischman to Mark Slaughter.

• 45:08: Buying King Diamond’s Fatal Portrait out of sheer fear, based only on a magazine photo with no MTV and no internet.

• 52:30: AC/DC’s Who Made Who: three new songs, six repackaged tracks, Maximum Overdrive tie-in, and the question of whether it needed to be a full album.

• 56:13: The connections bands bucket. Hurricane, London, M.A.R.S., White Tiger, Rough Cutt, Black ‘N Blue: albums bought for who was in them, not what was on them.

• 1:03:36: Rough Cutt’s “Take a Chance” as an all-time genre standout hiding inside a mediocre album.

• 1:07:29: We each name the one album that defines 1986. Three picks, no overlap.

• 1:21:07: Chip’s poll plug for CJSS’s Praise the Loud. Cincinnati power metal. David T. Chastain. Still waiting for its DMO moment.

• 1:24:07: Outro.

Have a lost or forgotten album that deserves the spotlight? Suggest it here.

The Albums

Metallica – Master of Puppets

nominated by Keith P. Miller

“Master of Puppets is Metallica’s best album. Songs about drugs, violence and power played with crushing precision.” Keith put this one forward, and if it wins, we’ll go deep on how a band this young made a record that still feels definitive.

Slade – Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply

nominated by Chip

Chip’s nomination pulls Slade back into the conversation as more than just source material for Quiet Riot. UK glam survivors trying to make sense of the MTV era, CBS Records, an Ozzy tour invite cut short when the bassist collapsed and was diagnosed with hepatitis—this ballot slot is all about that alternate history.

Tora Tora – Surprise Attack

nominated by Richard Waterman

“Late 80’s hard rock/metal album that needs diggin’ out.” Richard nailed the vibe. If you want the podcast to shine a light on a record that never got the legacy‑act treatment, this is the underdog.

Motörhead – Iron Fist

nominated by Patrick Testa

Patrick’s case is that Iron Fist has been dragged for years because Ace of Spades is untouchable and Lemmy himself knocked it. On the speakers it’s raw, fast, and live‑room loud, final album from the classic Lemmy/“Fast” Eddie/Phil “Philthy Animal” lineup. If you’ve ever thought Iron Fist got a raw deal, this is your chance to put your vote where your opinion is.

Your voting power

Here’s what happens when you vote in this poll:

• The winning album becomes the next full Dig Me Out episode and long‑form post

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• The result becomes part of the Dig Me Out catalogue to be rediscovered by a whole new audience

A Quick Note on Names

Searching for The Argument online leads you almost immediately to the wrong place. Fugazi‘s beloved 2001 album is also titled The Argument, and it dominates search results for the band name. The Morgantown band is a separate entity entirely: a four-piece power pop group from West Virginia, active in the early 2000s, led by singer and keyboardist Scott Simmons. No connection to Fugazi, Ian MacKaye, or post-hardcore.

On streaming platforms, the confusion compounds. The band’s album does not always surface under a search for the artist name, sometimes requiring a direct search of the album title Recess Serenade to find it. Apple Music has the cleanest presentation; Spotify availability is unconfirmed. The name problem is part of why this band disappeared so completely. It is also, unfortunately, part of why you have probably never heard of them.

What It Sounds Like: Jellyfish Goes to the Gym

The band name also evokes confrontation but the sound of The Argument is about harmony, not friction. The most immediate and accurate sonic reference for Recess Serenade is Jellyfish: specifically the Bellybutton side of Jellyfish, not the baroque orchestral excess of Spilt Milk. The Argument takes that same foundation: thick harmonies, piano-driven melodic instincts, pop structures built for radio, and then plugs it into a heavier, chunkier guitar and bass setup. The bass tone on this record carries real weight. The guitars are gritty without being distorted into oblivion. That combination keeps the album from ever turning syrupy.

Scott Simmons appears to write on piano, and it shows in the best way. Writing on a keyboard instrument pushes melody into different voicings than guitar-first songwriting. Chords land in unexpected places. Vocal lines climb higher. The Cars’ keyboard DNA runs through the album’s sonic architecture, and Ben Folds Five‘s piano instincts inform the mid-tempo moments, particularly on “Act My Age”: melodically specific, rhythmically bouncy, emotionally direct without being maudlin.

“Everyone’s Sellin’ Something” (track 5) is the album’s sharpest moment. It is a social commentary song with real teeth, not another relationship song dressed in pop clothing. The lyrics take aim at media saturation and commercial culture with the kind of directness the genre rarely gets credit for. For a power pop record, that is a pointed piece of writing. “Movin’ In,” “Incognito,” and “Act My Age” all sit in that upbeat, chunky-guitar sweet spot where the band sounds most like itself. The 36-minute runtime is not a limitation; it is a feature. The album never overstays its welcome.

The Mitch Easter Connection

Here is the detail that makes the obscurity even harder to explain. Mitch Easter mixed this record alongside Ted Comerford. Easter is the producer and engineer who made R.E.M. sound like R.E.M. at the start of their career: Murmur, Reckoning. His credits are not wallpaper; they are a lineage. A self-released band from Morgantown, West Virginia got Mitch Easter on the board for their album.

That credential alone should have opened doors. Combined with the LA Reid meeting and the American Music Awards recognition, the question stops being “why didn’t this band make it” and starts being “what specifically went wrong.” The answer is not available anywhere, because there is no record of this band almost anywhere. The band’s own website has no “About” page. No interviews have surfaced. The story simply ends in 2004 with an album that got zero reviews because nobody reviewed it.

Six People at the 400 Bar

On November 15, 2004, Whitney went to the 400 Bar to see The Argument play. He still has the ticket stub. There were six people in attendance, including him and his friend Jeff. The same venue had been packed for Walt Mink. The Argument played a full show anyway.

That story captures something the statistics cannot. The 531 Last.fm listeners is an abstraction. Six people in a Minneapolis bar while the bartender left is specific. A good band, an empty room, and no explanation for the gap between what the music deserved and what the audience showed up to receive.

Whitney knew at the 400 Bar in 2004 that this band was worth more than the room they were playing. He was right.

Where It Falls Short

Recess Serenade is not a perfect record. The album’s momentum dips in its second half, and a few tracks blur together in a way the stronger cuts avoid. “Soaked,” the mid-tempo ballad, is a well-constructed pop song with the melody and production to have been a 2004 radio hit, and it sounds exactly like a 2004 radio hit, which is the problem. It sits slightly outside The Argument’s own identity, polished into a kind of generic competence. It could be Lifehouse. It could be The Fray.

“Song One,” the opener, also lacks the oomph that the album’s best moments deliver. The vocal sits more exposed than the dense guitar-and-piano interplay deserves on the quieter tracks. These are not album-breaking flaws; they are album-thinning ones. The record’s eight strongest songs would be a near-perfect EP. But even at its softest moments, nothing makes you reach for skip. Ten songs in 36 minutes, no dead weight serious enough to stop you.

After the Deal That Never Happened

The Argument’s story did not end in 2004. In 2005, they released a five-track EP on Rostrum Records, notable because every other Rostrum act at the time was a hip-hop artist (Wiz Khalifa, Mac Miller). The EP led off with a cover of The Cars’ “Hello Again,” which also appeared on a Not Lame Recordings tribute compilation. By then, the window for major label momentum had already closed.

Scott Simmons moved to Los Angeles and built a session career. His credits include work with Mike Love (12 Sides of Summer) and Puddles Pity Party (Songs That Got Me Through the Plague), alongside Dirty Vegas and various independent artists. Under The Argument name, three singles surfaced on Qobuz in 2023 and 2024. The band website went active again around reunion shows in 2025 and 2026. The story is not over; it is just very quiet.

The gap between what Recess Serenade deserved and what it received is exactly the kind of story Dig Me Out exists to tell. LA Reid heard this album. Mitch Easter mixed it. The American Music Awards noticed it. And still: 531 listeners.

The Verdict

Whitney brought this album with confidence, and the conversation validated that confidence with some qualifications. Whether our ratings line up with the community, and exactly how far they pushed toward the album’s highs versus its softer spots, is a conversation worth hearing in full.

Drop your take in the comments. And if you have a lost record that deserves the same treatment, suggest it here.

Episode Highlights

• Intro (0:00): Whitney Beehler returns. Jay recaps her prior picks: Caviar, Death Ray, Human Radio, Wunderband, The Tories, Papa Vegas, Baltimora. Four self-titled records. That’s her niche.

• 2:08: Album reveal. Whitney holds up the CD on camera. Band is from Morgantown, WV. Jay and Tim have been there. They played to an empty bar.

• 3:56: Whitney’s live show story. The 400 Bar in Minneapolis, November 15, 2004. Six people in attendance, including her and her friend Jeff. He still has the ticket stub. The band played a full set.

• 7:10: Album cover mystery. Both Jay and Tim have vague familiarity with the cover they cannot place. Maybe a Virgin Megastore bin. Self-released but got real distribution somehow.

• 9:07: Mitch Easter connection. Easter and Ted Comerford mixed this record. The same Mitch Easter who made R.E.M.’s Murmur and Reckoning.

• 13:40: What works (the sound). Piano-driven but chunky. Bouncy Fender Rhodes-style keys against heavy bass and gritty guitars. Jellyfish but harder: Belly Button side, not Spilt Milk.

• 17:39: What works (the songwriting). Summer Camp and Sweet Water comparisons. Cars power pop DNA. Voice fits the style: sweet-with-edge, not throaty. 36 minutes, flies by.

• 20:55: What works (Whitney’s take). The harder guitar pop framing. Everyone’s Sellin’ Something as social commentary that goes beyond the typical relationship song.

• 23:55: Everyone’s Sellin’ Something (clip). Lyrics target media saturation and commercial culture. More pointed than the genre usually gets credit for.

• 26:45: Soaked (clip). Mid-tempo, atmospheric, more polished than the rest. The album’s softest moment.

• 28:15: What doesn’t work. Second half loses some momentum. Some tracks blur together. Nothing breaks the album, but a few songs thin it out.

• 31:59: My Dumb Luck (clip). Upbeat closer. Good energy to end on.

• 34:30: The near-miss story. Named Top Ten Unsigned Bands in the Country (American Music Awards 2003). LA Reid at Arista flew them to New York. Atlantic and Hollywood Records also interested. The deal never happened.

• 38:15: Verdicts. Poll results: Worthy Album 50%, Better EP 25%, Decent Single 25%. All three participants weigh in.

• Outro: Whitney shoutout. Reunion show context. Scott Simmons session career update.

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If This Hit for You, Try These Next

• The Tories on Dig Me Out: Another Whitney Beehler pick. Power pop done right, and another band that should have been bigger.

• Ben Folds Five on Dig Me Out: The piano-driven pop rock blueprint The Argument is working from.

• Sweet Water on Dig Me Out: Another power pop deep cut with the same chunky-but-melodic DNA.

The Satanic Band Nobody Was Supposed to Recognize

In 1988, a low-budget Canadian horror film called Black Roses went straight to VHS without so much as a theatrical run. The premise: a demonic heavy metal band arrives in a small town, corrupts the youth, and generally causes satanic mayhem. The satanic band in question was called Black Roses. The lead singer was named Damien. A character in the credits was listed simply as “Flunky.”

It is, by any measure, a terrible movie. One of the fathers gets pulled into a wall-mounted speaker by a giant rubber bug creature. The teacher hero kills a monster with a tennis racket. Vincent Pastore, best known as Big Pussy from The Sopranos, plays one of the concerned dads. There is fake blood so bright red it looks like latex paint. The film ends with a news broadcast announcing Black Roses is about to open a three-night stand at Madison Square Garden, implying the demonic conquest continues, presumably into Europe.

None of this is relevant to why you should care about the soundtrack.

The soundtrack is worth caring about for a completely different reason: the fictional band Black Roses was played by members of the real band King Kobra, specifically the lineup featuring Marcie Free on vocals, Mick Sweda on guitar, Carmine Appice on drums, and Chuck Wright on bass. King Kobra was being dropped by their label at the time. A friend of Carmine’s had a connection to the film production company. And so, by the kind of casual chain of favors that defined the late-80s LA music scene, one of the better-assembled melodic rock lineups of the decade ended up recording songs for a straight-to-VHS horror movie about devil worship.

Metal Blade Records bought full-page ads. The album cover is legitimately striking. A lot of people remember seeing it in Hit Parader and Circus. Almost nobody bought the record.

The King Kobra Reunion Nobody Announced

To understand what makes this soundtrack more than a curiosity, you need to understand the lineup politics embedded in the tracklist.

The four songs credited to Black Roses: “Dance on Fire,” “Soldiers of the Night,” “Rock Invasion,” and “Paradise (We’re On Our Way)” are essentially an unreleased King Kobra record. This is the Marcie Free/Mick Sweda/Carmine Appice/Chuck Wright version of the band, recording under a pseudonym for a horror movie while their label situation dissolved around them. The performances are not B-movie filler.

Marcie Free (who recorded these tracks in 1987 under the name Mark Free, before her transition in 1993; she passed away in 2025) delivers some of her finest 1980s vocal work here, particularly on “Soldiers of the Night,” where her range draws comparisons to Kevin DuBrow and Blackie Lawless in the same breath. Mick Sweda’s guitar work is more expansive than his later Bulletboys material. Carmine Appice, whose drumming can sometimes blend into the era’s generic hard rock sound on standard King Kobra recordings, is distinctly audible throughout.

“Rock Invasion” is the track that most clearly demonstrates what this lineup was capable of. It opens as a conventional anthemic hard rock number, the kind of song that could have appeared on any respectable 1988 metal record. Then the middle section arrives: a minor-key breakdown with trippy guitar effects that genuinely does not belong in the same song, in the best possible way. It is the most musically unexpected moment on the record, and it arrives buried in track four of a straight-to-VHS movie soundtrack.

“Dance on Fire” has the cadence and construction of a legitimate Headbangers Ball single. The chorus shares DNA with Bon Jovi’s “In and Out of Love,” and in any other context, on any other release, it could have been exactly that.

There is also a second version of King Kobra on this record. “Take It Off,” credited to King Kobra (with the later, different spelling signaling the lineup change), features Johnny Edwards on vocals, the singer who replaced Marcie Free after the label dropped the original lineup. Edwards later became the lead singer of Foreigner. “Take It Off” is a slicker, more polished track, closer in spirit to a Gene Simmons-era Kiss song than the Black Roses material. It is fine. It is not the same band, and the contrast is audible.

Bang Tango’s Secret First Recording

One of the more surprising footnotes on this record sits at track three: “I’m No Stranger” by Bang Tango.

Bang Tango became a name in 1989 when Psycho Cafe arrived and introduced the world to their sleazy funk-metal hybrid. But “I’m No Stranger” predates that debut by a year. This is their first commercial recording, released before a single album, before most people had heard their name. It appears on a straight-to-VHS horror movie soundtrack because Metal Blade Records was using the project as a partial showcase for emerging LA bands alongside the fictional band from the film.

Even the liner notes give away the newness: Joe Leste’s name is spelled differently in the credits, a small error that signals Bang Tango had not yet solidified their own identity in print, let alone in the marketplace.

“I’m No Stranger” holds up. It is recognizably the same band that would make Psycho Cafe, with the same street-level energy and Joe Leste’s distinctive delivery. As a time capsule of what Bang Tango sounded like before they had a record deal, it is genuinely interesting. As a commercial release, it had zero impact. The movie was on Tubi before Tubi was a concept.

The Lizzy Borden Standout and the Soundtrack’s Identity Problem

“Me Against the World” by Lizzy Borden is the best song on this record. It is not particularly close.

The track is more stripped-back than the band’s usual theatrical material, closer in spirit to an AC/DC-amped chorus than the elaborate compositions that define their studio albums. It is also the song used twice in the film: once during the opening sequence, when rubber-masked ghouls stomp around a club stage, and again when Vincent Pastore’s character listens to an album that spawns the creature that kills him. “Me Against the World” had already been a single with a video before the movie existed. Its presence here is almost incidental to its actual quality.

But the fact that it is so clearly the best track on the record also illuminates the soundtrack’s central structural problem. The Black Roses album exists in an uncomfortable middle space between two things a soundtrack can be. On one end: a cohesive artist record, where every track serves the same creative vision (the Fastway/Trick or Treat model, where the soundtrack is effectively a Fastway album that happens to have a film attached). On the other end: a showcase compilation, where a range of bands get positioned against each other in a way that works as a listening experience even without the film (the Bill and Ted approach, with Extreme, Tora Tora, Winger, Shark Island, Kiss, Slaughter, Steve Vai, and Richie Kotzen creating a coherent document of the era).

Black Roses is neither. It has four songs from the fictional movie band, a structural choice that commits to the artist-record model, but then pivots to showcase mode with Bang Tango, Tempest, Hallow’s Eve, and the two King Kobra/David Michael Phillips tracks. The result is a record that is more cohesive than it has any right to be across the middle eight songs, then derails with “Paradise (We’re On Our Way),” a power ballad that sounds like Winger writing a song for a Transformers soundtrack, and “D.I.E.” by Hallow’s Eve, which is sludgy and thrashy and sounds like it came from a completely different decade.

Tempest’s “Streetlife Warrior” is a minor footnote: a band that released exactly one self-distributed cassette EP before disappearing entirely, landing one song on this soundtrack as what appears to have been their only commercial release.

The Pink Floyd Footnote

Carmine Appice is the only member of the King Kobra lineup who actually appears in the film. While the movie was shooting in Canada, he visited a local record store because an album he had played on was just being released: A Momentary Lapse of Reasonby Pink Floyd. Nick Mason had a hand injury; Pink Floyd called Carmine to play on “Dogs of War.” Standing in a Canadian record store while playing the demonic drummer in a zero-budget horror film, Carmine Appice heard himself on a Pink Floyd album for the first time.

This is, in miniature, the story the whole record tells: legitimate talent operating in contexts that had nothing to do with the mainstream industry, doing work that would not be properly contextualized for decades.

The Scarcity Paradox

The Black Roses soundtrack is not available on any streaming platform. There is no authorized digital release. Finding it on YouTube means finding a bootleg upload. The CD on Discogs ranges from $50 to over $300. Patron Keith Miller paid $100 for his copy.

The movie, by contrast, is free on Tubi with no account required, and also available on Shudder, Peacock, and AMC+.

This inversion is close to perfect. The thing of no cultural value is freely available everywhere. The thing of genuine musical interest requires either a significant cash outlay or a bootleg upload. It is a precise diagram of how the late-80s music industry treated its second-tier roster: promoted the packaging, abandoned the content, and let the actual recordings vanish.

The album cover, that striking image that appeared in full-page ads across every metal magazine in 1988, still exists everywhere you look. The music it was selling is effectively inaccessible unless you know exactly where to look.

What Did the Hosts Make of It?

The Black Roses soundtrack rewards the kind of listener who finds the archaeology more interesting than the hit. There is no hit here. There was never going to be a hit here, because there was no infrastructure to make one happen. What there is instead: a document of Marcie Free at or near her vocal peak, Mick Sweda doing his most interesting work, Carmine Appice playing with genuine commitment, Bang Tango before they were Bang Tango, and Lizzy Borden delivering one of their finest individual performances.

Does that add up to an album? Does it earn a full listen, or is it more honestly an EP’s worth of material spread across ten tracks? Does the identity crisis at the heart of the tracklist (part fictional-band concept record, part B-movie showcase, part late-label-deal salvage operation) actually diminish what the strongest songs accomplish?

The three hosts landed on the same verdict. Whether you agree or disagree says something about how you weigh the good against the awkward, and whether a record needs to know what it is to be worth your time. The full conversation, and the final call, is in the episode. Drop your own verdict in the comments below.

Episode Highlights

• Intro (0:00): Poll reveal. Black Roses wins a four-way race at 30.4%, beating Venom, Death Angel, and Marry My Hope. Patron Keith Miller spent $100 on the CD to make this happen.

• 6:23: The movie. Jay watched it on Tubi: satanic band, small-town teacher, monster from a speaker, tennis racket murder, Vincent Pastore, an open ending where Black Roses heads to Madison Square Garden.

• 14:07: Is it fun-bad or just bad? Jay: “Worst movie I’ve ever seen.” Taken completely seriously, no camp wink at the camera, zero budget.

• 17:45: The Keith Miller subplot. An actor named Keith Miller appears in the film’s credits. Running gag: he is possessed, much older than we realize, a satanic demon.

• 20:07: Rock Invasion. Carmine Appice’s drumming is most audible here; a conventional anthemic verse gives way to a minor-key trippy middle section nobody expected.

• 22:27: Two versions of King Kobra on one record. The Black Roses band is the Marcie Free/Mick Sweda/Carmine Appice lineup; “Take It Off” is King Kobra with Johnny Edwards, who later sang for Foreigner.

• 26:34: Paradise (We’re On Our Way). Power ballad that divides the hosts: sounds like Winger or Stan Bush’s “The Touch,” overly positive, no edge.

• 30:10: Bang Tango’s first commercial recording. “I’m No Stranger” predates Psycho Cafe by a year. Joe Leste’s name is spelled differently in the liner notes.

• 32:13: Me Against the World. The best song on the record by a clear margin. Used twice in the film. Already had a video before the movie existed.

• 36:03: Take It Off (King Kobra). Johnny Edwards, later of Foreigner. Jay: “Could have been a Gene Simmons song.”

• 41:40: Trick or Treat comparison. The 1986 Fastway soundtrack as a contrast: bigger budget, theatrical release, now retroactively a Fastway album. Future episode pairing suggested.

• 44:38: Carmine and Pink Floyd. While filming in Canada, Carmine walked into a record store and heard himself on A Momentary Lapse of Reason for the first time. Nick Mason had a hand injury; Floyd called Carmine for “Dogs of War.”

• 47:07: Bill and Ted comparison. Black Roses falls between a cohesive all-artist album and a showcase compilation, satisfying neither. Hosts rattle off both Bill and Ted soundtracks from memory.

• 53:20: Dance on Fire. Chip: “I kept singing Bon Jovi’s ‘In and Out of Love’: same cadence.” Could have had a Headbangers Ball video.

• Outro: Verdicts delivered. Keith Miller shoutout.

Space, Spiders, and the Glorious Problem of a Band Too Weird for Britpop

J Dziak and Tim Minneci, June 9, 2026

What happens when a Liverpool band dodges the Oasis/Blur template with a collage of lounge, trip-hop, and off-kilter pop? They get one huge single (”Female of the Species”), one cult-classic album, and a place in the “what if” file forever. This week we dig into the moment Britpop almost made room for the weird kids.

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Gang of Four’s Entertainment!: Punk, Funk, and the Politics of Rhythm

J Dziak, Chip Midnight, and Tim Minneci, June 2, 2026

From Thatcher-era anxiety to 2000s indie dancefloors, Entertainment! is the record that taught two generations of guitarists they could play funk if they did it angry enough. The poll winner gets the deep dive.

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Kashmir’s No Balance Palace: The Forgotten Album with Bowie and Lou Reed

J Dziak and Tim Minneci, May 26, 2026

A Danish art-rock record that went to number one in its home country, featured David Bowie and Lou Reed as guests, and somehow never escaped Europe. Patron Jason Pan picked it for exactly that reason.

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Coming Up Next

Black Roses (Various Artists) Soundtrack

The 1988 cult horror film about a glam-metal band that turns out to be literal demons. Soundtrack contributors include King Kobra (whose Ready to Strike just hit the Hopper, picked by jdziak), Lizzy Borden, and Bang Tango. 80s metal at its peak commercial absurdity, before grunge sent everyone running.

Give it a spin before Tuesday and come ready with what works and what doesn’t.

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New Releases

Modest Mouse – An Eraser and a Maze

Close your eyes and you’re back in 2004, summer somewhere, “Float On” coming out of every passing car. Modest Mouse were the band who broke through after a decade of grinding through indie obscurity, and Isaac Brock’s voice became the texture of the mid-2000s. An Eraser and a Maze is their eighth studio album, out June 5 on Brock’s own Glacial Pace, their first independent release in 30 years and first record since drummer Jeremiah Green’s passing in 2022.

What works: The Au Review gave it four out of five and called it “a meandering self-reflective tribute to life.” RANGE goes further: “the band’s strongest in years, eclipsing both The Golden Casketand the often-overlooked Strangers to Ourselves.”

What doesn’t: Fiona Shepherd at The List (per the Wikipedia summary) scored it 3 out of 5 and called it a record that “captures the eclecticism of their career in under 50 minutes,” which doubles as praise and as a warning: 15 tracks across that many moods can feel like a tour rather than a destination.

Death Cab for Cutie – I Built You a Tower

You remember “I Will Follow You Into the Dark” at every wedding, every breakup mixtape, every late-2000s indie playlist that lived in someone’s iPod. Ben Gibbard spent the 2000s articulating sadness for an entire generation, and Death Cab quietly became one of the most reliably good American bands of the last 25 years. I Built You a Tower is their 11th album, out June 5 on Anti-, their first independent release in 20 years after two decades on Atlantic, produced by John Congleton in three weeks and written through the dissolution of Gibbard’s second marriage.

What works: The Fire Note lands on the leanness: “Some of Ben Gibbard’s sharpest writing in years arrives on a record that feels lean, focused, and emotionally exposed.” The speed of the sessions shows up in the spark.

What doesn’t: Kerrang scored it 3/5 and gave the contradiction at the heart of the record: “It’s Death Cab at their brooding, beautiful best. While not every track hits that hard, this is still a worthy addition to the band’s catalogue of poignant, sorrowful songs.” Translation: if you wanted the Gibbard who wrote “The Sound of Settling,” you’ll find pieces of him. If you wanted a whole new band, that isn’t the record.

Of Montreal – aethermead

Picture Kevin Barnes at the Hissing Fauna peak in 2007, the freakiest art-pop band on the Elephant 6 roster, building entire records out of dance beats, glam-rock theatrics, and Barnes’ chronic emotional oversharing. aethermead is the 20th of Montreal album, out June 5 on Polyvinyl, written after Barnes’ breakup and move to Brooklyn, where he walks his dog every morning through the Nethermead meadow in Prospect Park. The title comes from that walk.

What works: Beats Per Minute gave it 76% and frames it as “a sort of a musical recap of what he has done in the 30 years,” with Barnes “picking and choosing musical elements with such an ease that often escapes other artists.”

What doesn’t: Psychedelic Scene Magazine names the cost of admission: the record “seems to reflect a lost relationship in an unhealthy way and focuses on the negative qualities Barnes showed to his lover while blaming her for leaving.” Barnes has always written from the wound. If that’s a feature for you, this is more of it. If it’s a bug, it’s a big bug.

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Converge – Hum of Hurt

Remember the first time you heard Jane Doe in 2001 and realized hardcore could be that emotional and that punishing at the same time. Converge spent 30 years being the band that other hardcore bands measured themselves against. Hum of Hurt is their 11th album (or 12th if you count the Chelsea Wolfe collaboration), out June 5 on Deathwish/Epitaph, and remarkably, their SECOND album of 2026 after February’s Love Is Not Enough. The sessions split into two records: one leaning metal, one leaning emotional hardcore. This is the second one.

What works: Wonderbox Metal calls it “essential listening” and lands on this: “Well, if it’s not enough for Converge to release one great album in a year, they’ve now gone and released another that’s arguably even better.” New Noise Magazine adds that it’s “one of the band’s most emotionally exposed records.”

What doesn’t: The reviewer at YouTube/A Reaction calls it “the blander of the two records the band has just released” and notes that while it’s still solid Converge, it doesn’t carry the same nuance as Love Is Not Enough. Two records in four months is a lot to absorb. If you’ve only got room for one, the consensus is Love Is Not Enough.

Yes – Aurora

If you have a parent or older sibling who ever sat you down and made you listen to Close to the Edge in 1972, you know exactly what Yes are. Steve Howe’s guitar lattice, Jon Anderson’s choir-boy register, Rick Wakeman’s cape-wearing keyboard wizardry, and the most ambitious prog band ever to fit a 20-minute song onto one side of vinyl. Aurora is their 24th studio album, out June 12 on InsideOut/Sony, produced by Steve Howe, with the current lineup of Howe, Geoff Downes, Jon Davison, Billy Sherwood, and Jay Schellen.

What works: The Prog Report calls it “the strongest album of the Jon Davison era so far,” with “a rhythm section that feels genuinely locked in, Geoff Downes’ keyboards pushed much further forward in the mix, and the increasingly rich vocal blend developing between Jon Davison, Steve Howe, and Billy Sherwood.”

What doesn’t: Something Else! is positive overall but warns that Aurora is “leaner in concept” rather than reaching for the sprawling mysticism of the 1970s catalog. If you came for Close to the Edge Part 2, this is not that record. Both reviewers agree: judge it on its own terms or skip it.

Piebald – Tales for the Rages

If you were on a Vagrant Records tour bus in 2002 or wore out your We Are the Only Friends We Have CD in college, you remember Piebald. The Andover, Massachusetts emo/indie band who specialized in anthemic sing-alongs with an offbeat sense of humor, then went quiet after 2007. Tales for the Rages is their first new album in 19 years, out June 12 on Iodine Recordings, written and recorded between 2019 and 2025 after their 2016 reunion, produced in part by Jay Maas (Title Fight, Citizen) and mastered by Jack Shirley (Joyce Manor).

What works: The Concert Chronicles frames the comeback as “a continuation rather than a throwback. The same voice, just with more time behind it. It sounds like a band that understands exactly what made them work, without feeling the need to prove it again.”

What doesn’t: The Concert Chronicles acknowledges the risk plainly: “No reset. No reinvention. Just a band picking back up where they left off.” If you wanted Piebald to evolve into something they’ve never been before, they didn’t. If you wanted 13 more tracks that sound like Piebald, they delivered.

Also Out This Week

Rachel Bolan – Gargoyle of the Garden State: The Skid Row bassist’s punk-rock solo debut on earMusic, produced by Nick Raskulinecz with guest spots from Corey Taylor, Danko Jones, and Nuno Bettencourt. Chaoszine called it “one of the most personal works of Bolan’s career.”

The Dwarves – Jenkem: 17th album from the Chicago-via-SF punk provocateurs, 13 short violent bursts that The Concert Chroniclessays “strips things back to speed and impact, short songs, aggressive pacing, and no real interest in overcomplicating anything.”

Mike Campbell & The Dirty Knobs – Mission of Mercy: Tom Petty’s longtime guitarist’s fourth Dirty Knobs album, classic Heartbreakers-adjacent rock that fans of his guitar tone have been chasing ever since Petty’s death in 2017.

Thomas Bangalter – Mirage: Ballet For 16 Dancers: The Daft Punk co-founder’s second post-helmet contemporary classical work, scored for a Stéphanie Aubin choreography after 2023’s Mythologies. Confirms his “I’m a French composer now” pivot is permanent.

Jon Spencer – Songs of Personal Loss and Protest: First Jon Spencer record under his own name in a decade. Title tells you exactly what you’re getting.

Fresh in the Hopper

The queue has been busy. Here are the picks worth bookmarking.

Tsar, Tsar (2000), submitted by whitsbrain. He calls it “an all but forgotten work of guitar pop mastery,” ranking it near the top of the power pop genre. His pitch: “Why did it take me this long to give it the recognition it deserves? Quite possibly one of my largest musical oversights.”

Queens of the Stone Age, Rated R (2000), submitted by Jake Miller. The pitch is the perfect Dig Me Out frame: “For meatheads like me who only discovered QOTSA on Songs for the Deaf, Rated Ris the one where they really made the leap.” The record where the band became a band, not a Josh Homme post-Kyuss project.

Fields of the Nephilim, Dawnrazor (1987), submitted by Chip. He bought the cassette at 16 in a Florida record store after spotting them as a Black Sabbath tour opener. The spaghetti-western instrumental opener scared him. Carl McCoy on the cover, no face visible except the yellow eyes.

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Suggest an Album

There are albums that fit neatly into their era, and then there are albums that seem to have shown up wearing the decade’s clothes while quietly plotting against the dress code. Spiders, the 1996 debut from Liverpool band Space, belongs to the second category. It arrived during Britpop’s peak commercial years, when the market was flooded with bands trying to bottle some combination of Beatles shimmer, Kinks wit, Oasis swagger, and Blur cleverness. Space looked at that lane, shrugged, and swerved into something stranger.

That strangeness is the whole story.

If the only thing most listeners remember is “Female of the Species,” that’s understandable. It’s the kind of single that burns so brightly it can distort the memory of everything around it. Sultry, theatrical, vaguely sinister, and just knowing enough to be funny without collapsing into novelty, it remains one of the great oddball hits of the era. It sounds like a lost lounge-pop theme from an imaginary 1960s spy flick that somehow escaped into the alt-rock ecosystem of the mid-90s and started making itself comfortable in movies, TV, and anybody’s brain who heard it after midnight.

But Spiders is not merely the album that contains “Female of the Species.” It is a much messier proposition than that: a record full of half-brilliant pivots, theatrical overreach, eerie atmosphere, great singles, questionable sequencing, and enough personality to stay interesting long after its flaws have made themselves obvious.

Britpop by way of the haunted funhouse

What makes Spiders compelling is that it refuses to settle down long enough to become generic. Where so many bands of the period were polishing their influences into something market-ready, Space assembled a collage. You can hear late-60s mod, pulpy lounge-pop, Madchester looseness, trip-hop mood, cheap sci-fi soundtrack kitsch, and a little bit of classic-rock drama all rubbing against one another. It feels less like an album with a single sonic thesis than like flipping channels at 1 a.m. and landing on a string of reruns: spy shows, horror flicks, off-brand variety specials, some weird imported crime drama with bad dubbing, then a music video that looks like it cost £17 and somehow still nailed the vibe.

That atmosphere is the record’s best trick. Organs wheeze and shimmer. Synths creep in from the corners. Xylophone and mallet percussion pop up where normal bands would settle for tambourine. Strings show up not to elevate the songs into grandeur, but to give them a sly, cinematic wink. Even the guitars often feel less like the center of the band than one more prop in the production design.

It gives the album a mood few of its peers could touch. Space were not trying to beat Oasis at being Oasis. They were building a world instead.

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One undeniable hit

Still, there’s no getting around the fact that “Female of the Species” towers over the rest of Spiders.

That isn’t because the other songs are bad. It’s because that track is one of those rare moments when concept, songwriting, arrangement, and performance all click at once. The groove is sly. The hook is immediate. The orchestration is playful without being cluttered. The vocal is theatrical, but disciplined. Most importantly, it feels complete. Not dressed up. Not overcompensating. Complete.

That’s what separates it from a lot of what surrounds it. On the album’s best songs, the production deepens the material. On its weaker songs, the production sometimes feels like it’s trying to distract from songs that are merely decent. “Female of the Species” never has that problem. Its lounge-pop strut, sinister charm, and perfectly calibrated weirdness are the song. Strip the arrangement away and you lose the whole point.

That’s also why it outlived the band’s broader reputation, especially outside the UK. It didn’t need context. It didn’t need scene literacy. It didn’t need a listener to buy into all of Space’s eccentricities. It was just instantly, unmistakably itself.

And that kind of single can be a curse. Once a band lands a song that specific, every other track risks sounding like either a failed attempt to repeat the trick or proof that the trick can’t be repeated.

The case for Spiders

The strongest argument in favor of Spiders is that when it hits, it’s a lot of fun. Not polished fun. Not prestige fun. Real fun. The kind that comes from a band willing to try a weird instrumental choice, a left-turn arrangement, a vocal flourish that shouldn’t work but maybe does.

“Neighbourhood” has the crackle of a strong opener and quickly establishes that Space are more interested in mood and movement than guitar-band orthodoxy. “Money” leans into a sleazy, cinematic cool that suits the band’s instinct for stylized storytelling. “Me and You vs. the World” carries a 60s-pop glow that suggests Space could have made a cleaner, more focused retro-pop record if they’d wanted to. “Dark Clouds” and a few others flash the band’s knack for texture—how to make a song feel like a set piece even when the tune underneath it is only partway there.

And that’s really the charm of the whole enterprise: you can hear the curiosity. The album doesn’t sound like a band trapped by a formula. It sounds like a band chasing whatever detail or influence excited them in the moment, whether that meant baggy grooves, keyboard color, spaghetti-western twang, pulpy narrative lyrics, or dancefloor percussion. In a decade full of alt-rock records that flattened personality into market-tested sameness, that counts for a lot.

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The case against it

But there’s another side to all that freedom.

For all its invention, Spiders can also feel like an album that mistakes motion for momentum. It jumps styles, moods, and vocal approaches so often that the experience starts to blur. What feels playful in the first half can feel scattered in the second. A record this committed to collage needs either knockout songs or ruthless pacing to hold everything together. Spiders has flashes of the first and not enough of the second.

The back half is where the strain starts to show. Some tracks begin to sound less like bold acts of reinvention and more like affectionate but lesser versions of other bands’ ideas—second-tier baggy grooves, second-tier dance-rock, second-tier Britpop songwriting hidden under layers of character and production. The more the album sprawls, the more it exposes how much of its identity depends on atmosphere doing the heavy lifting.

The vocals don’t always help. Space love character, but character is a dangerous drug. Sometimes the exaggerated accents, theatrical cadences, and shape-shifting deliveries make the songs feel cinematic. Other times they make them feel muggy and overacted, like the musical equivalent of a supporting character in a Guy Ritchie knockoff trying way too hard to steal the scene.

Then there’s the rhythm section problem. Some of the drum programming and loop-based choices lock the album so firmly into mid-90s production habits that the songs flatten out instead of erupting. You keep waiting for a few of these tracks to hit harder, swing more, or open up dynamically, and too often they just hover in place. The result is an album that can feel long not simply because of its runtime, but because so many songs occupy the same murky middle distance.

This is where Spiders becomes such a great record to argue about.

Because the honest answer might be that it is not a great album so much as a very good five- or six-song EP trapped inside a full-length running on nerve, style, and a willingness to risk embarrassment. Trim the fat, sharpen the sequencing, keep the strongest singles and the most vivid deep cuts, and you’ve got something closer to a cult classic than a curio.

That isn’t a backhanded compliment. Plenty of bands never make one great single. Plenty of bands never build a world vivid enough that listeners still want to rummage around in it decades later. Space did both. They just may not have had the songwriting consistency or editorial restraint to stretch that world across more than 50 minutes.

And yet even that excess is part of the appeal. Spiders is not the sound of a band playing it safe. It’s the sound of a band trying too much, pushing too far, trusting their oddest instincts, and occasionally tripping over their own ambition. There’s something admirable in that, especially now, when so much music arrives pre-smoothed and algorithmically legible.

The one-song trap

A lot of albums in the 90s fell victim to the one-song trap: one brilliant single, one unforgettable video, one radio moment, and then a full-length that couldn’t possibly live up to the expectation created by that hit. Spiders belongs in that lineage, but with an important twist. Most of those records are remembered only for the disparity. Here, the gap between the hit and the rest of the album is real, but so is the atmosphere, the ambition, and the strange little collection of pleasures sitting around it.

That makes Spiders more than a footnote. It’s a reminder that some records matter not because they’re airtight, but because they’re gloriously unstable. Because they capture a band in the act of trying to invent a language of their own, even if they only speak it fluently a few times.

“Female of the Species” may be the song that gets Space into the room. Spiders is what keeps them there just long enough to make the conversation worth having.

Episode Highlights

00:00 – Patron setup and intro – How a long-time Union member brought Spiders into the rotation and why it stood out in a sea of 90s Britpop and alt‑rock

05:10 – Band history – The early days of Space, lineup changes, and how a supposedly Britpop band ended up chasing film, trip‑hop, and lounge instead of Beatles worship

09:00 – Singles and UK vs. US reception – The strange rollout of five singles, why “Female of the Species” broke through, and how the rest of Spiders stayed a cult item outside the UK

13:30 – Building the “spy‑fi lounge” sound – Organs, synths, xylophone, strings, and how the band leaned into retro TV, B‑movies, and cocktail‑lounge vibes instead of standard guitar rock

18:45 – Cinematic songwriting and dark humor – How Tommy Scott writes like he’s scoring imaginary films, the Tarantino influence, and the tension between playful arrangements and morbid lyrics

24:20 – When the collage works (and when it doesn’t) – The highs of the album’s atmosphere versus the moments where stock drum loops, overcooked vocals, and weaker songwriting start to drag

31:10 – The back-half problem and 90s production – Why the second side feels more like genre cosplay, how dated beats flatten dynamics, and what a tighter runtime might have fixed

36:40 – One killer single vs. whole-album verdict – The “worthy album / better EP / decent single” debate and why most roads lead back to a leaner version of Spiders

41:30 – Community verdict and where Space fits now – Patreon poll results, listener comments, and how Spiders sits today as an eccentric 90s time capsule rather than a lost classic

And the reason we’re talking about it now isn’t because some label cooked up a deluxe box set. It’s because a bunch of listeners threw it into a cage match. In one corner: The Damned’s Machine Gun Etiquette. In another: Lone Star’s Firing on All Six. Over there: Throbbing Gristle’s D.O.A.. And then, quietly sharpening its knives in the back, Gang of Four’s Entertainment!—a 1979 outlier that ended up squeaking past The Damned in a runoff vote that felt more like 51–49 than a decisive knockout.

If you’ve got a 70s, 80s, 90s, or 2000s rock record you’d throw into that kind of knife‑fight—a weird outlier, a buried classic, the one you’re mad nobody talks about—submit it for a future poll and see if your pick survives the gauntlet.

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The sound of the floor dropping out

Drop the needle on Entertainment! and the first thing that hits you isn’t melody, it’s geometry. The guitars don’t strum; they jab. They show up in short, percussive bursts, like somebody turned the rhythm guitar slot into a blunt instrument. You’re waiting for big chords to ring out and instead you get these knife‑edge shapes that hang in mid‑air and never resolve the way a classic rock brain expects.

So what keeps it from collapsing into pure noise? The bass. The bass is the secret hero here. It doesn’t just thud along on root notes—it moves. There’s funk in there, and R&B, and a bit of dub lurch, like someone sped up a James Brown or Parliament groove and stripped away the gloss. If you soloed some of these lines, you could probably drop them into a dance or soul track and nobody would flinch.

The drums glue it all together with this weird human‑machine feel. Remember, this is 1979—drum machines are starting to sneak into pop, sequencers are creeping in—but Gang of Four get to that stilted, almost robotic grid using nothing but people in a room. It feels mechanical and slightly cold, but you can still hear the sticks, the air, the tiny imperfections. The future they’re pointing at is automated, but the hands playing it aren’t there yet, which gives the whole record this uncanny, in‑between vibe.

Rhythm as manifesto

Most rock bands treat rhythm like plumbing: you need it, but you don’t talk about it. Here, rhythm is the whole architecture. Guitars, bass, vocals—almost everything behaves like percussion. The riffs are clipped, the phrases are short, and even when the band locks into a groove, it feels like they’re testing how tightly they can coil it before it snaps.

That leads to one of the coolest (and most disorienting) tricks on Entertainment!: the subtractive chorus. We’re wired to expect the chorus to be the moment where everything explodes—more guitars, more backing vocals, more everything. Gang of Four often do the opposite. “Damaged Goods” spends the verses building this twitchy, nervous energy, and when the chorus finally arrives, the arrangement drops down to basically drums and voice. It’s like the floor disappears right when you expect fireworks.

Why does that matter? Because in a scene where “punk” was already getting standardized—faster, louder, snottier—they’re quietly saying, “We’re not playing that game.” Punk doesn’t have to mean turning the volume knob further right than the band next to you. It can mean ripping up the invisible rules about how songs are supposed to work in the first place.

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Theory in the pit: lyrics and delivery

If the music is all sharp angles and rhythmic traps, the lyrics are the essay written in the margins. This is late‑70s Britain; unemployment is up, Thatcherism is looming, and everyone’s being sold a story about modern life getting better and better. Gang of Four’s answer is basically: “Better for whom?”

Take “Natural’s Not In.” On the surface, it’s a jagged little tune with that same stripped‑down aesthetic. Underneath, it’s a takedown of how “advancement” can hollow out the actual experience of being alive. The key line—“this heaven gives me migraine”—lands like the punchline to a very bleak joke: you’ve been promised paradise, but it just makes your head hurt. You can hear the frustration of living in an allegedly golden age that still feels gray and constricting.

The band keeps circling back to the body as a site of business. There’s a line that essentially casts the body as “good business,” which is a brutal way of saying we carve ourselves up, day after day, and hand those hours to capitalism. Eight hours at work, every day, traded to the machine so we can afford to keep existing. It’s not subtle, but honestly, it’s not trying to be.

What really sets the lyrics apart, though, is how they’re delivered. A lot of these songs use two vocal lines at once: one speaking, one singing. On “Anthrax,” you get this almost spoken‑word rant running alongside a more traditional vocal, and every so often they sync up on a phrase like “Love will get you like anthrax,” and it hits twice as hard. It feels like you’re hearing someone’s inner monologue and their public voice collide in real time.

And then there are the little nerdy Easter eggs: references to Lot’s wife, Great Expectations, and more obscure ideological threads tucked into the verses. It’s the same trick Manic Street Preachers would pull years later—writing songs that double as reading lists if you’re the kind of listener who pauses to Google a line. If you like disappearing down rabbit holes, this record absolutely enables that behavior.

Totally 1979, somehow not stuck there

Here’s the weird thing: Entertainment! is obviously a product of its time, but it doesn’t feel trapped in 1979. You can hear the era in the ingredients—punk’s urgency, disco’s groove, reggae and dub’s sense of space, funk’s bass language—but the band never settles into any of those as a comfy lane.

Contrast it with what rock radio was doing. While Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles were rolling out big, plush, FM‑ready productions with layers of overdubs and studio shine, Gang of Four basically sound like they plugged in, checked levels, and hit record. The guitars are dry and almost confrontationally unadorned—no lush reverb caves, not a lot of pedalboard ornamentation. You can practically see the cables on the floor.

The funk and R&B influence isn’t “here’s our funk song” obvious either. It’s more like the record is wearing those styles under its clothes. Those basslines and rhythmic shapes keep things moving and give you something to latch onto, even when the guitars and vocals are trying their hardest to knock you off balance.

That’s part of why so many people discover Entertainment! backwards. They hear the 2000s bands first—the dance‑punk wave, the angular‑guitar indie stuff—and then stumble across Gang of Four and realize, “Oh, this is the blueprint.”

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The template everyone else stole from

If you want to understand how ahead of the curve Entertainment! was, you don’t even have to stay in the 70s. Skip forward a couple of decades to when The Rapture, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand and company were getting tagged with “dance‑punk” or “post‑punk revival,” and you can basically draw a straight line back to this album.

That whole recipe—tight, syncopated drums; basslines doing as much heavy lifting as the vocals; guitars that slash on the off‑beat instead of ringing out heroically—lives here in rougher, more abrasive form. Those later bands had the luxury of sanding down the edges, adding bigger choruses, and slotting themselves into festivals and TV dramas. Gang of Four were busy, you know, inventing the thing.

The influence radiates beyond the obvious too. You can hear flashes of this approach in the way Local H’s “Bound for the Floor” handles its verses—those simple, stabbing guitar figures that feel more Gang of Four than grunge, even if the song doesn’t sound like a tribute. Parts of The Cult’s more taut, post‑punk‑leaning moments seem to drink from the same well, especially in how they build verse tension before letting the chorus go widescreen.

Individual players took notes as well. Flea has talked about how this band rewired the way he thought about bass, and it’s no coincidence that Andy Gill ended up producing the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ debut, dragging some of that jagged, skeletal funk into their orbit. Dave Allen’s later band Low Pop Suicide and the long list of musicians who rotated through Gang of Four over the years—people tied to Belly, L7, Slint and more—helped spread that influence across alternative rock, post‑hardcore, and beyond.

Even hip‑hop got in on it. “Ether” gets sampled by Run the Jewels decades later, proof that those rigid yet funky grooves still hit hard enough to anchor a modern beat. “Damaged Goods,” meanwhile, has become the closest thing the band has to a standard—covered, referenced, and even nearly turned into an album title by bigger acts.

When innovation wears you out

Here’s the honest part: as much as Entertainment! is a landmark, it’s not exactly an easy Sunday‑morning listen. Several spins in, one thing that keeps coming up is how long 40 minutes can feel when every song is challenging you on multiple fronts.

Because the record leans so hard on tension—rhythmic, harmonic, structural—it doesn’t give your ears a lot of release valves. There aren’t many big, sing‑along choruses to coast on, no lush ballads where everything softens and breathes. For some listeners, that’s thrilling; for others, it can start to feel like homework by the back third of the album.

It’s easy to imagine a slightly tighter version that trims a track or two and keeps the focus on the absolute killers: “Ether,” “Not Great Men,” “Damaged Goods,” “At Home He’s a Tourist,” “5.45,” maybe “Glass” depending on your tolerance for the more abrasive end of their palette. The flip side is that these “less essential” tracks also show you the limits of the band at this stage—they’re not great at slow, moody pieces yet, and when they stray too far from their rhythmic sweet spot, you start thinking more about what they can’t do than what they can.

But that’s kind of the nature of a record like this. It’s not designed as a greatest‑hits package; it’s a document of a band figuring out how far they can push rock’s skeleton before it breaks. Sometimes that means a few experiments land awkwardly. It also means the highs feel genuinely new, not just very good versions of something you’ve already heard a hundred times.

After the blast radius

If Entertainment! hooks you, there’s a whole rest of the story waiting: albums like Solid Gold and Songs of the Free, where the band leans harder into funk and more polished production, pulling in things like backing vocalists and slicker arrangements without totally losing the bite. The lineup shifts, people cycle in and out, and Andy Gill slowly morphs from just “the guitarist in Gang of Four” into a kind of patron saint of jagged, groove‑driven rock production.

For some listeners, the best single starting point is a well‑chosen compilation that pulls key tracks from Entertainment! and the more accessible later records, showing how the band moved from skeletal agit‑funk to something closer to alt‑rock with teeth. For others, it’s all about absorbing the debut whole at least once—letting the full 40 minutes wash over you so you can feel where so many later bands quietly stole their ideas.

Either way, Entertainment! is one of those albums that changes how you hear other records. Once you’ve spent time with it, you start spotting its fingerprints everywhere: in a riff here, a bassline there, a weirdly empty chorus that suddenly makes more sense.

So if you’ve got a record you think plays a similar role—rewrites the rules instead of just following them—send it in. Maybe it’s a too‑heavy 90s album that scared radio programmers, or a 2000s rock disc that got lost in the blog deluge, or another punk/post‑punk mutant like Entertainment! that never quite fit anywhere. Throw it into the next poll and see if you can force everybody else to sit with “your” difficult, brilliant 40 minutes and ask, “How were we not talking about this already?”

What kind of album are you personally itching to nominate next: a jagged art‑punk curveball, or a melodic, hooky record that still got criminally overlooked?

Episode Highlights

0:00 – Intro – How a community poll pitted Gang of Four against The Damned, Lone Star, and Throbbing Gristle, and why Entertainment! edged out the win

5:12 – Setting the stage – Late‑70s Leeds, art school punks, and how Gang of Four stitched punk, funk, reggae, and dub into something new

13:30 – “Ether” – Opening track breakdown: rhythmic knife‑edge guitars, politicized lyrics, and the groove that anchors the chaos

20:45 – Rhythm as revolution – Why the band treats guitars and vocals like percussion, and how their subtractive choruses flip rock song structure on its head

27:10 – “Natural’s Not In” & “Not Great Men” – Capitalism, bodies as “good business,” biblical and literary references, and the link to Manic Street Preachers‑style lyric nerdery

34:30 – “Damaged Goods” – The band’s de facto anthem: from angular verses to that stripped‑back chorus, and how it became a template for generations of bands

42:05 – “At Home He’s a Tourist” & “5.45” – Melodica lines, TV‑age dread, and the way the record feels both 1979 and weirdly timeless

50:20 – “Anthrax” – Dual vocals, anti‑love‑song energy, and how the band turns noise, rant, and groove into something iconic

58:40 – Influence and aftershocks – From Flea and Red Hot Chili Peppers to The Rapture, Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, Local H, and Run the Jewels sampling “Ether”

1:06:15 – Does it still work front to back? – The guys debate the 40‑minute runtime, favorite cuts, what they’d trim, and whether Entertainment! is best as full album or curated gateway

1:13:50 – Final verdicts – Where Entertainment! lands in the Gang of Four catalog, why it’s still required listening, and who this record is really for

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Kashmir’s No Balance Palace topped the charts in Denmark in 2005. It featured David Bowie singing a verse and Lou Reed delivering spoken-word noir. Tony Visconti produced it. And unless you were living in Benelux, you probably never heard a single note.

This week on Dig Me Out, J and Tim return to Kashmir—11 years after covering their 1994 debut Travelogue—to find a band that barely resembles itself. The transformation is stunning, strange, and a reminder that some records only get made when the right people walk through the studio door at the right time.

The 11-Year Gap

Kashmir formed in Denmark in 1991. Their debut was workmanlike, searching for identity. By 2005, they’d evolved into something darker and more atmospheric—melodic without being hooky, propulsive without being showy. No Balance Palace is their fifth album, and it sounds like a band that finally knows who it is.

The contrast is jarring. Travelog felt like a band still figuring out their sound. This record—anchored by clean, delayed guitars, driving bass, and breathy vocals—lands somewhere between The Cult’s melodic edge, Failure’s spacey heaviness, and the melancholy undertow of Swedish bands like Kent.

It’s not pop. But in Denmark, it went to number one.

Tony Visconti, David Bowie, and Lou Reed Walk Into a Studio

No Balance Palace was recorded at Sun Studios in Copenhagen and Looking Glass Studios in New York. The producer was Tony Visconti—the man behind T. Rex, Thin Lizzy, and a mountain of David Bowie records.

Which might explain how Bowie ended up singing the second verse of “The Cynic.”

His voice is subtle, blending into the song’s eerie, proggy atmosphere. It’s not a spotlight moment—it’s a texture. And that’s the thing about this record: it doesn’t showboat. Even with Bowie on it.

Then there’s Lou Reed, who shows up on track 10 with a two-minute spoken-word piece about passing a mysterious black building and wondering if the devil lives there. It’s evocative, strange, and—if we’re being honest—skippable on repeat listens. Cool story for the band. Less essential for the listener 20 years later.

A Tale of Two Halves

The first six tracks on No Balance Palace work. They build tension, atmosphere, and momentum. Songs like “California,” “Jewel Drop,” and “The Cynic” use clean guitar tones, delay, and heavy bass to create a driving, nocturnal sound. The vocal is breathy, sometimes bordering on Thom Yorke territory, but it fits the mood.

By track seven, things start to drift.

The second half of the record feels looser, more experimental, less focused. Songs like “She’s Made of Chalk” lean too hard into Kid A-era Radiohead without the payoff. The melodies thin out. The vibe turns from propulsive to meandering. It’s the sound of a band trying things out in the studio—interesting, but not as compelling.

Take the first six songs, maybe add “Snowman,” and you’ve got a tight, intriguing record. The rest feels like an experiment that didn’t quite land.

Why This Record Never Crossed the Atlantic

No Balance Palace was released in Europe, Japan, Russia, Argentina, Australia, and the mysterious region known as Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg—not a spy novel country, despite how it sounds). It was not released in the United States.

In 2005, American rock radio was leaning into Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys, and Block Party—high-energy, angular stuff. Death Cab for Cutie was having a moment with Plans, but even that was more melodic and accessible than Kashmir’s moody, atmospheric approach.

This record is darker, slower, less immediate. It’s the kind of album that rewards patience—and in 2005, U.S. audiences weren’t being asked to be patient with Danish rock bands.

What It Sounds Like Now

No Balance Palace holds up best when you meet it on its own terms. It’s not a record for every mood. But if you want something melancholic, propulsive, and cinematic—something that feels like driving through open space at night—the first half delivers.

It’s also a fascinating case study in evolution. Kashmir went from a decent-single debut to chart-topping records in their home country. They refined their sound, brought in a legendary producer, and got two icons to guest on the album. And then they just… kept going. They released three more albums after this, went on hiatus in 2017, got back together, planned a tour, and then COVID hit.

They’re still out there. And their entire catalog is now streaming.

Kashmir’s No Balance Palace didn’t make it to the States, but it made it to number one in Denmark. And for one fleeting moment in 2005, David Bowie walked into a studio and sang a verse on a Danish rock record that most of the world never heard.

That alone makes it worth digging out.

Episode highlights

[00:01:26] Jason Pan’s Pick History: Patron Jason Pan’s selection history since 2018—mostly Australian picks including Mansun, Pollyanna, and Soulwax.

[00:02:17] Kashmir Returns After 11 Years: Second time covering Kashmir—last reviewed their 1994 debut Travelog back in 2016.

[00:05:33] Tony Visconti Produces: Legendary producer (Bowie, T. Rex, Thin Lizzy) at the helm.

[00:06:35] Bowie and Lou Reed Guest: David Bowie sings on “The Cynic,” Lou Reed does spoken word on track 10.

[00:07:16] No Poll This Week: Tim forgot to post preview before vacation—no comments or poll results.

[00:08:39] What Works: Melancholic Atmosphere: Jay highlights clean guitars, driving bass, breathy vocals. Comparisons to The Cult, Failure, Kent.

[00:13:52] What Works: Sonic Diversity: Tim praises shoegaze elements, minimal soundscapes, post-Radiohead influence.

[00:17:37] Dramatic Sonic Transformation: Hosts shocked by how different this sounds from the 1994 debut.

[00:19:51] #1 in Denmark: Mainstream pop success in their home country—three consecutive #1 albums.

[00:23:03] What Doesn’t Work: Second Half Falls Apart: Jay says it gets too loose, experimental, derivative—like a failed attempt at Kid A.

[00:25:51] The Lou Reed Problem: Both hosts question the two-minute spoken-word piece. Cool story, instant skip.

[00:32:57] Never Released in the U.S.: Album came out in Europe, Japan, Australia, but not America.

[00:34:12] Wrong Time for U.S. Market: Too melancholic for 2005—Death Cab, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys dominated.

[00:36:47] Final Ratings: Better EP: Both hosts say first six tracks (Jay) or seven including “Snowman” (Tim) make a strong EP.

[00:40:50] Thanks to Jason Pan: Rare opportunity to cover same band with 11-year gap between albums.

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